F-35 combat deput

a reply to: Kkintekk

I'm not the one making the claim.

It's not up to me to prove it.

a reply to: mightmight

alright, so now the F-22 and the F-35 are combat proven. We have been bombing Syria terrorists inside Syria with the F-22 since 2016.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

The F-22 in Syria has been used for missions besides bombing for the largest part. They've had a few high profile missions but they're mostly playing AWACS and escort.

a reply to: Zaphod58
I still call it a success in combat regardless. Now that the world knows our new stuff is legit, I would hope we get more buyers.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Not for the F-22. It would break anyone else but us to try to restart the line. As for combat, it's absolutely a success, it's performed extremely well in every mission they've thrown it at.

It is odd that Russia managed to fly their Su 57 to Syria without the US ever knowing about it.

THe US make a lot of claimes but they can not show any evidence....just claimes.


Israel show images of their F35 flying over Lebanon and claim that it does combat missions in Syria. Damn what kind of evidence is that....when they show imaged of a F35 flying over Lebanon?

You People demand stricter evidence when we talk about religion.

a reply to: spy66

And you have shown no evidence that they flew the Su-57 to Syria without anyone noticing. Funny that you say this but when it comes to Russia you believe everything they say.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: spy66

I edit out this information since it describes who i am.

edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)

a reply to: spy66

So because Norway didn't tell you the route that Russia took, no one knew they did it? Talk about a leap. The two aircraft flew down as part of a routine deployment with Su-35s, Su-25s, and an A-50U. It was a routine deployment using the same routes they have been using from the start.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: spy66

So because Norway didn't tell you the route that Russia took, no one knew they did it? Talk about a leap. The two aircraft flew down as part of a routine deployment with Su-35s, Su-25s, and an A-50U. It was a routine deployment using the same routes they have been using from the start.

WHat you state now is not true. WHat you describe is what is only been described by Public media.....

There are no sensor data that tells us when Russia deployied these SUs.

Since my government wont tell as you satate. Do you have any thing to Counter my claim With?

a reply to: spy66

That makes perfect sense because we know how much Turkey loves Russian border incursions.

a reply to: spy66

Of course. I keep forgetting that you have access to every secret that NATO has and know everything going on. Terribly sorry, from now on whatever you say is Truth and Right.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: spy66

That makes perfect sense because we know how much Turkey loves Russian border incursions.

It does make Perfect sence why Russia would side With Turkey at this point. Russia would not need a Counter productive apponent.

Now ask yor self why would Turkey buy the S-400 and let Iran build a base Close to their boarders?

Are Turkey buying the S-400 so that the US could study it?....... I dont think so. Russia brought in the S-300 at the same time as they brought in the S-400. And the publick would not know the differance between the two. Get my point?

The thing is the US dont even have any information about this trade....... Do you know how odd that is....................

The thing is that we do because we have to study Russian equipment........All SF have do that. But why have we not been told?

THe answer is....... beacuse its all about politics.


There is a reason why SF and operators can not tell the truth........... They have signed a contract not to......

a reply to: spy66

Do you have citations for your claims, if I may ask?

That the US didn't see the Su-57 come into Syria, I mean.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

No. Our aircraft should see their combat debut later this year. They have VMFA-121 on the USS Wasp now. There was talk of them heading to Syria, and the Air Force had said they'd deploy this year as well.

Are the F-35's that israel is flying without the full capability of the F-35 or is Israel flying a watered down version until the US fully completes, integrates, tests its actual capabilities?

a reply to: EternalSolace
Everyone gets the same F-35, there are no watered down Export versions or seomthing. But capabilities will diverge eventually with each partner nations having different requirements. At this point the only difference are block configurations depending on when the aircraft was build.
Block 3F will be deployed in the coming years and will include Israeli specific upgrades to the F-35I.

www.janes.com...

a reply to: EternalSolace

Our export aircraft are in some cases more advanced than what we fly. They all start as the standard version of whatever airframe, and then are adjusted to the requirements for that nation. To give examples, Iraq bought F-16s that began as Block 50/52, like we fly, but then in some ways they watered them down, by their own choice.

The UAE on the other hand, bought F-16s, and built them to the Block 60/62 standard. They're currently the most advanced F-16s flying anywhere in the world, including when compared to our own aircraft.

More than 6 months ago, according to propagandists, an Israeli F-35 was detected and damaged by an S-200 missile over Syria. Which meant that the F-35 was apparently and according to them, flying on operational missions over Syria more than 6 months ago. Before the Block 3F jets were received by Israel. Before Israel had declared IOC. And in spite of the fact that the S-200 is dated and contains a massive warhead. No evidence was ever provided to corroborate this ridiculous and implausible story.

Today, when Israel claims that *gasp*, they dropped a couple of bombs with the F-35 the response is: "Israel is lying, the F-35 is not operational" or "where is the proofs?". You know, it could be false, but it is entirely reasonable to expect that Israel would use the F-35 in some combat early on, it is an operational jet after all.

Anything will be said as long as it's against the F-35 or Israel, even if its hypocritical and contradicts earlier stories. I'm sure they will be telling us next time that war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and that the world is flat.

nvm

a reply to: mightmight

Edited my post for clarity.