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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: shooterbrody
It seems to be quite a frightening thing. They aren't necessarily fans of the deep state, as much as they are against anything that Trump is for. Border protection=bad. IC following laws=bad. 2nd amendment=bad. It's a sickness that must end. People who used to be intelligent are now crybaby idiots.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: bastion
That whole monitoring structure has been in place since the late 60s. Trumps associates and campaign just happened to arrange meetings with some of them.
Funniest line I have read here in a loooong loooong time. "Just happened to".....yeah those "coincidences" happen in the ic world all the time.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: bastion
Interesting edit.
It cannot be allowed to collapse because of US domestic wranglings.
When your allies spy on you they are no longer your allies.
Then not only does it need to be "allowed" to collapse, it needs to be destroyed.
They didn't spy on Trump or in the US, his team was picked up when monitoring Russia, under the Patriot Act as allies we had to feed this intel to the US.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler
Wow doesn't sound like the FBI or DOJ are worried about what they have been doing or the procedures they are following if they're willing to share everything.
Now what?
Trump tries to find another way to shut down Mueller.
Yes, the fbi that has stonewalled the entire time, has fought tooth and nail saying releasing many things to congress would hurt national security, has funally been forced after a sit down with trump to say they will relent and release what congress is asking for.
originally posted by: pavil
Are there any photos of Rosenstein coming out of that meeting with Trump?
I bet the look on his face is priceless.
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
originally posted by: pavil
Are there any photos of Rosenstein coming out of that meeting with Trump?
I bet the look on his face is priceless.
I didn't see any but I doubt Rosenstein is a beaten man.. I think they agreed to release because what they have incriminates Trump and provides a factual justification for all that has gone on. Otherwise they would have never agreed to it.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
They didn't spy on Trump or in the US, his team was picked up when monitoring Russia, under the Patriot Act as allies we had to feed this intel to the US.
Then why stone wall the over sight committee?
The information was fed to US intel community which then puts it under the oversight committee, if they bring in the ranking members of both parties from the appropriate committees and read them in they stop all this, and if a leak occurs they know who did it.
International intel organisations aren't going to allow the US to parade documents that pose great threat to national security.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: bastion
International intel organisations aren't going to allow the US to parade documents that pose great threat to national security.
Perhaps this is part of the problems.
It is not up to "international intel organizations" what the US does and does not do.
Frankly it is one of the reasons trump was elected.
Are US politicians that unstable they'd throw international ties away over a petty squable and unsubstantiated claim that has been repeatedly refuted as Trump and his admin embarassing themselves and him Tweeting without knowing how the GCHQ-NSA-FIVE-EYES-PRISM etc work?
originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical
originally posted by: pavil
Are there any photos of Rosenstein coming out of that meeting with Trump?
I bet the look on his face is priceless.
I didn't see any but I doubt Rosenstein is a beaten man.. I think they agreed to release because what they have incriminates Trump and provides a factual justification for all that has gone on. Otherwise they would have never agreed to it.