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The Pope on Homosexuality

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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:13 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
It doesn't matter what the pope says. He is just a man, and men cannot forgive sins regardless of what he says.

Scripture is very clear about Same sex sin. They spell it out very clearly.


Will my Father in Heaven stop loving and protecting me if I have sex with the same sex?




posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

No one can tell you that except the god of the Bible. Anyone else, can't prove they are speaking with its will. People need to think hard before accepting the words of some random crank



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: redletter
So, TL : DR, God made The Gays?


Further, turn down foolish and ignorant questionings. 2 Timothy 2:23

Paraphrased that would be, "Don't feed the trolls," or something along those lines.

I realize you were just mocking and have no intention for honest or civil conversation. And it is not my intention to engage you in such. It is a foolish endeavor to treat with internet trolls.

To paraphrase one of my favorite movies:

I did not come here to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.
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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: visitedbythem

Scripture is also clear about boiling goats in milk. Scripture has been clear on what to eat and Christians don't follow that. Scripture is wrong about a lot of things too. Probably wrong about this one.


You do realise the boiling goats in milk is a Jewish law, it has nothing to do with Christianity



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

If it's in the Christian bible it has to do with christianity.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:47 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: visitedbythem

Scripture is also clear about boiling goats in milk. Scripture has been clear on what to eat and Christians don't follow that. Scripture is wrong about a lot of things too. Probably wrong about this one.


You do realise the boiling goats in milk is a Jewish law, it has nothing to do with Christianity




You are both misquoting the Mosaic law. It was given as God's norm concerning a mother and its child. Even among the animals he detested the thought and thus forbid it, that someone should boil a goat in its own mother's milk:

“You must not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk." Exodus 23:19.

God created the mother with milk to nourish the young kid. It would be contrary to nature to thus boil it in its own mother's milk. If anyone is mistaken about that fact, the law stipulating it, teaches us that lesson.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: redletter

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: redletter
Why would God condemn homosexuality if he made people that way? That makes no sense.


The bible is simply a collection of gospels written by humans (not God), and later collated and edited by the wishes of king James (not God). Humans are fallible, and so are their works.


I did not come here to argue the veracity of the Bible. I'm just stating that the head of the Catholic Church is stating that he does not believe in the Bible.

If he doesn't, and he is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, why should any of its adherents? In fact I would surmise that a large majority of Catholic priests, bishops, the pope, etc. do not read the Bible and do not believe in the Bible.




The Catholic church was established by Peter the Magician, not Peter the Rock, that was Jesus desciple




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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: redletter
I realize you were just mocking and have no intention for honest or civil conversation.


That is the point of contention. God is the creator of all, so therefore he made gay people. Yes or no?



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: redletter
I realize you were just mocking and have no intention for honest or civil conversation.


That is the point of contention. God is the creator of all, so therefore he made gay people. Yes or no?


NO
God made the perfect word that was corrupted by sin
We are all sinners, everyone
The issue is how bad the sin of homosexuality is compared to other sins.

Many different types of Christians accept homosexuality others don't, it has been that way for millennia



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:21 PM
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originally posted by: redletter

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: visitedbythem

Scripture is also clear about boiling goats in milk. Scripture has been clear on what to eat and Christians don't follow that. Scripture is wrong about a lot of things too. Probably wrong about this one.


You do realise the boiling goats in milk is a Jewish law, it has nothing to do with Christianity




You are both misquoting the Mosaic law. It was given as God's norm concerning a mother and its child. Even among the animals he detested the thought and thus forbid it, that someone should boil a goat in its own mother's milk:

“You must not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk." Exodus 23:19.

God created the mother with milk to nourish the young kid. It would be contrary to nature to thus boil it in its own mother's milk. If anyone is mistaken about that fact, the law stipulating it, teaches us that lesson.


Sorry where did I quote anything?
Anyway
Don't care, it's a Jewish law, old covenant, not pertaining to Christianity
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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

Accept or tolerate? There are very different meanings there.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: Raggedyman

If it's in the Christian bible it has to do with christianity.


Certain tribes in the bible burned children to Baal as a sacrifice, it's in the bible, it has to do with Christianity, doesn't mean we burn babies
Just engage your brain



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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this matters as much as them saying on which days I can't eat meat or do laundry. It's all human words, laws and thinking. Even bible was written few hundred years after Jesus. I don't know why people can't just wake up. You can have God in your heart you don't need religion to differentiate good from evil.
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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Raggedyman

Accept or tolerate? There are very different meanings there.


Many Christians tolerate, some accept, there are different views on sin.
All valid depending on ones understanding



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: KiwiNite
this matters as much as them saying on which days I can't eat meat or do laundry. It's all human words, laws and thinking. Even bible was written few hundred years after Jesus. I don't know why people can't just wake up. You can have God in your heart you don't need religion to differentiate good from evil.


Funny, your words are exactly what the bible teaches
Just teaches us to accept Jesus and be guided by the Holy Spirit



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:28 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
God made the perfect word that was corrupted by sin


If God made all then God made sin too. You cannot be omniscient and omnipotent without having created everything and knowing how that everything would take place.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:37 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Raggedyman
God made the perfect word that was corrupted by sin


If God made all then God made sin too. You cannot be omniscient and omnipotent without having created everything and knowing how that everything would take place.


Well if that's what you choose to believe then what would be the point of me going on
Good on you



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman


What's to believe? God either created and knows all or doesn't.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Raggedyman


What's to believe? God either created and knows all or doesn't.


Yeah whatever

I get the feeling you believe what you believe because that is what you were told to believe
You want the truth, go find it, think you have the truth, fine
Whatever
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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Don't try logic in these discussions
It never ends well for one side. No matter how correct you are about something which is claimed to be Omnipotent, omnipresent, etc




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