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Why Liberals and conservatives are both guilty regarding the shootings in America

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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Media and culture. Dash of hormones too.

Left, right, guns, movies and games are red herrings.




posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: Willtell
There is only one individual responsible, it is the individual who made the free will choice (or it could have been another case of magneto-thermal stimulation , aka real mind control that has now existed for over a decade just like invisibility and the ability to create and plant DNA evidence at crime scenes) to take lives of unarmed innocent people.

Now, do slasher movies like the Purge, which will be again released on our nations B-day this summer, and violent games contain subliminal messaging to randomly target the over 30 million Americans using some kind of psychotropic or SSRI as medication so that the guaranteed 1/10 of a percent anomaly that the manufacturers guarantee will experience hostile, aggressive, and violent behavior as side effects still add up to several thousand acts of violence or mass violence every year have some role to play?? Yes, they do. The top of the food chain for the pharma industry, defense, media, and prison have already developed the formula that works perfectly for creating mass hysteria and being certain so many people will be guaranteed to commit acts of violence with targeted messaging that first convinces as many people as possible need drugs, which the pharma industry so happily provides. Then stage 2 is targeting individuals who already have their entire lives and personality profiles in a database with entertainment that is most likely to trigger very improper thoughts in their brain known to be amplified by the medication they are also already known to be taking.

Stage 3 is simply making sure enough humans are exposed in a market guaranteeing that somebody with those variables, that 1/10 of a percent will finally snap and commit acts of violence.

This is all simple math really. Before your response goes "uhh, well I watch my lovely apocalypse and murder movies, but Im not out there murdering people!" yea, no #. I could send you a flyer in the mail advertising my products and services, that does not mean your going to buy anything right? But I sent out 10,000 flyers, which guarantees that even if only one percent buys anything, thats one hundred people generating revenue for me. it is the same concept, cast your line enough times, and eventually something will bite. A fish, gator, dolphin, squid, stingray, whatever. But something is going to bite eventually, even if they just steal your bait.

So does media and pharma part of the issue as enablers? Yes, but they are not responsible until you can eviscerate their records and find written proof of this conspiracy. However, until then they are just enablers. The only one responsible, is still the young man who decided to murder people that day.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: olaru12
Did you know before guns were invented, no children were ever murdered anywhere in the world by any means?? True story yo!



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: Willtell

I think the shooters are guilty for the shootings. Individuals are responsible for their decision whether we choose to acknowledge that or not.

Shhh, never ,ever mention "personal responsibility" with Liberals around.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: olaru12
Did you know before guns were invented, no children were ever murdered anywhere in the world by any means?? True story yo!


Where did I mention guns. I support the 2nd, own a very nice collection, have a CC permit as does my lady. Show me where I blamed the kids murders on just guns. If you are going to make accusations, at least back them up with something. You are more than welcome to go thru my profile...... Next....,

And leave the clever sarcasm for the adults yo!! Enjoy your summer now that schools out you Mighty Imperial Storm Trooper #3 yo!!
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:42 PM
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So you have a society with an epidemic of children being slaughtered and your unintelligent analysis is that it’s all because of the individual

Your ignorance is apaprent

And IF you read the OP, something I'm sure you didn't you'd have known I criticized so-called liberalism.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You think ancient Romans didn't?

Who do think the slaves were?!

In many cases they were ancient Romans who had lost everything and couldn't afford life so they might sell a child or three into slavery or become slaves outright the entire family.

What do you think happened to those children? In many cases, it wasn't pretty and no one cared.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

No.

The shooter is guilty.



/thread



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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All the people here talking about it’s the individual criminal are in denial as well brining up a straw man argument.

OF COURSE, the killer is the primary responsibility. duh


But you folks are pretty clueless.

IM TRYING TO SEEK A SOLUTION to a societal probem


Of course, we can and will deal with the perpetrator

But that’s NOT the issue here


You have a disease in your society if you have a constant mass murder, damn near a week

That’s the problem.

If you don't think its worthy to try to stop then why do we try to even heal diseases



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Due, oh yeah

THATS wonderful you figured that out

Even though the issue is not whose guilty.

That's like saying cancer is what kills so we won't try to find a cure for it

duh



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Here look at these.

Get it yet?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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Now all of a sudden people who want to avoid trying to find a solution come up with some ridiculous and simplistic libertarian solution: the killers to blame…
Duh

Though when they talk about Chicago

Then it’s the liberals—their no longer libertarians

Or the black community

Or rap music


consistency



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

You just don’t care about kids getting killed

Your guns are more important to you, right?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




You just don’t care about kids getting killed

Your guns are more important to you, right?


Here's a list of logical fallacies.

See if you can pick out which ones you just used.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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If you people don’t want to deal with this topic seriously, then why bother posting.

Go to your self-congratulating conservative OP’s and just keep idol worshiping Trump, your hero.


Let him lead you to wherever you're going



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I asked him the question.

If you want to answer for him, go right ahead.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




If you people don’t want to deal with this topic seriously


Based on the garbage you've puked up on the screen for everyone to read I don't think you want to either.
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: projectvxn

I asked him the question.

If you want to answer for him, go right ahead.


Your question is logically invalid no matter who answers it.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
If you people don’t want to deal with this topic seriously, then why bother posting.

Go to your self-congratulating conservative OP’s and just keep idol worshiping Trump, your hero.


Let him lead you to wherever you're going


There are plenty of discussions about it taking place on this board right now, but I'll give you a hint. This is a societal issue having to do with how kids are raised and the school system.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Now all of a sudden people who want to avoid trying to find a solution come up with some ridiculous and simplistic libertarian solution: the killers to blame…
Duh



I've written extensively about solutions.

I was ignored because I didn't want to ban guns or arm everyone.




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