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Why Liberals and conservatives are both guilty regarding the shootings in America

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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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Very simply, on one hand, the wild-wild west conservatives hiding behind the 2nd amendment are guilty because there is no doubt guns do have an effect on the problem, how much, is debatable. On the other hand, guns are NOT the sole reason for this horrible problem.

Also, so-called liberalism is responsible for the anything-goes mentality: violent movies, violent video games, too easy on crime, and generally more loose morals, so from that perspective they also are to blame.

In addition, both sides are too rigid: only their perspective is the reason for the gun violence, according to they’re dogma.

Both sides want to avoid the problem of psychotropic drugs because of the power of the drug companies, as the conservatives are in tow to the NRA.

The fact is most if not all complex social problems have many sides to be looked at never just one answer to ameliorate the problem.

In any problem-solving situation, there are two roads to solving any issue. One, to take an integral approach, that is understanding and defining the essential issues involved. And two, willing to take a holistic approach in that the problem likely has many sides to the issue that need to be dealt with and not just one.

Both so-called liberal and conservatives refuse to have an open mind, therefore the children of America are and will remain imperiled by the leaders and their followers who empower them.

Therefore, one has to be willing to adjust their viewpoint to objective reality, real-world scientific analysis not their subjective analysis that is based on personal belief.


So this issue needs to have an aspect of gun control, and an approach that deals with the pathologies that are rampant in America that fuel these killings which can include the ingestion of


God help and protect the children of America because the grown-ups won't!




posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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this isn't a partisan issue

man so partisan

it's an issue of culture we have a culture of complete crap, actually we have no culture thats the problem the only thing that matters is how much money you make

complete waste



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:29 PM
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this isn't a partisan issue

man so partisan

it's an issue of culture we have a culture of complete crap, actually we have no culture thats the problem the only thing that matters is how much money you make

complete waste


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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:36 PM
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Most kids are very progressive now. Liberal to the T. They have poor moral values, and no control over their emotions and actions. It is actually a form of mental illness



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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I blame kids.

Kids are stupid, let's ban kids.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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I dont believe in group punishment or collective guilt.

I've committed no crimes nor will I be held to account for the crimes of others because you want to draw a false equivalence.


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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:49 PM
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Mental defected people have no "Party" loyalty.

💥🔑🚿



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sure, blame movies and videos game, lets throw music in there as well because why not? Meanwhile, the rest of the world is playing the same movies, games, and music while not dealing with mass shootings that the US does.

Not tough on crime? You do realize we have more people in prison than any other nation on this planet right?

Your OP is junk.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I think the shooters are guilty for the shootings. Individuals are responsible for their decision whether we choose to acknowledge that or not.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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I fail to see what so many people are concerned about. A few dead school kids are just collateral damage in a corporate oligarchy. MAGA MAGA!!



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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Do we blame all drivers for those that drive drunk or commit terrorists act with a vehicle? Do we want to ban vehicles? No? Then lay off my guns, I did not commit any crime with my firearms get over it.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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I blame the socialists and communists in this country. They have no qualms about killing our children to push an agenda.

Prove me wrong...



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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You guy regretting getting registered firearms yet?
CCP's?
The internet?
CNN?
Obama?
Politicians?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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While I wish we could decide on gun legislation, I see nothing that could make a difference in the near or even distant future as there are lots of guns already out there and if outlawed there will be a huge black market, I guess we have learned nothing since prohibition and from the so called drug war. And as long as our border remains as is, it will be the same.

Let us make no mistake however, the only person to blame is the individual that pulled the trigger, no if's, And's, or but's about it period. The parents of the latest killer should have controlled their firearms better but no one is responsible other than the individual that pulled the trigger....PERIOD.

And as far as politics are involved, no one from either party has lifted a finger to do anything of substance other than 30 second sound bites. Each party has been in control at one time or another and instead chose the money for reelection instead as each party has accepted healthy doses of cash from the lobbyist to keep things as is.
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:44 PM
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Yeah, I don't get it, we had mag locks on all our doors in school, back in 93, maybe earlier.

Funnel people through one door, then metal detector it.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Willtell
It has nothing whatsoever to do with politics. That's just party propaganda to manipulate people and sadly people play along.

The shooter(s) bear most responsibility for their actions and for letting them devolve to that point, the parents, peers and schools are in part to blame.

These psychopaths however will always be with us and if you read a bit you will find that it surfacing around high school age is the rule. Nothing anyone can do about them. They have malfunctioning brains. It's like saying that a bad heart is the result of politics, which would be absurd.

The school was not paying attention and even had such lax security students could walk in with a gun. The parents dropped the ball and clearly were not paying attention as their own child devolved into a monster and right at the age that parents need to be most aware.

Drop the politics entirely for an honest discussion. Otherwise it's just more partisan crap and propaganda. You kind of head the right way, but you have not figured out yet it's not a political problem.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:06 PM
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America is a failing civilization headed for doom.

Like ancient Rome, who btw at least didn’t stand by and watch their kids get slaughtered...Not much different than the Roman arena.

Probably worse with all the hypocrisy going on.


We have arrived at a dystopia. A modern society that lives and accepts the slaughter of their own children.

It looks like we could teach the Aztecs a few things about child sacrifice.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:09 PM
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Nobody has all the answers but we're not even looking for solutions. This has been accepted as something like a disease, or an accident.

But even diseases any sane society tries to heal.

There is no attempt in America at finding any solutions.

Maybe there isn’t any



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

Did you read the OP?

It’s about going beyond politics. I’m blaming the right and left ideologues as impediments to finding an objective solution



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Its because both sides follow the MSM like pied piper, and argue it as instructed (centered around gun debate), rather than the media training us our entire lives to obsess about fame, the bullying inherent to social pecking orders (like in schools), and the MSM making celebrities out of shooters thus perpetuating the copycat shooter pattern they've established.

Mass Shootings and the Media Contagion Effect








 
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