Texas school shooting suspect targeted girl who denied his advances, her mother says

a reply to: dragonridr

The kid made a post somewhere and I think the hammer and sickle represented rebellion according to him, and the iron cross was supposed to stand for bravery while he has using the rising sun to stand for kamikaze tactics.

So if we take him at his twit word, none of these pins stood for what we might think in the traditional political sense.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Any image of the "columbiner" pin/pendant?

This shows he was a communist has nothing to do with Columbine,someone doesn't know there history.
www.amazon.com...

Someone is too lazy to read the links provided throughout the thread.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

And yet I wore a trench coat all the time. Had one that I made warm weather friendly that I changed into while in class. The main coat had a caduceus on the lapel (gift from a friend), captain bars on the epaulets and a purple scarf. There was also a large safety pin in button hole (gift from a girlfriend). I often wore slacks, sometimes purple and sometimes white with a row of black buttons down the legs from yep, my first trench coat. This was the mid to late 80’s and let’s just say I was a clique of my own, but funky for even 80’s standards. I could pull a variety of things from my pockets as there was a collection of random things stored. Some useful like a three foot tape measure or 6 in 1 screwdriver set, some just mementos of various sorts.

Trench coat mafia before there was such a thing, I suppose. Been called all sorts of things from the king of random to just plain creepy. Still get that from people from time to time. Never bothered me at all. Never valued the opinion of others disparaging words.

Somehow despite all this, I never shot up anything school or otherwise.

"columbiner pendant"

lol

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: TinfoilTP

And yet I wore a trench coat all the time. Had one that I made warm weather friendly that I changed into while in class. The main coat had a caduceus on the lapel (gift from a friend), captain bars on the epaulets and a purple scarf. There was also a large safety pin in button hole (gift from a girlfriend). I often wore slacks, sometimes purple and sometimes white with a row of black buttons down the legs from yep, my first trench coat. This was the mid to late 80’s and let’s just say I was a clique of my own, but funky for even 80’s standards. I could pull a variety of things from my pockets as there was a collection of random things stored. Some useful like a three foot tape measure or 6 in 1 screwdriver set, some just mementos of various sorts.

Trench coat mafia before there was such a thing, I suppose. Been called all sorts of things from the king of random to just plain creepy. Still get that from people from time to time. Never bothered me at all. Never valued the opinion of others disparaging words.

Somehow despite all this, I never shot up anything school or otherwise.

I never mentioned a trenchcoat, neither does any of the articles or research into school killers who are into the Columbiner cult.

a reply to: Zaphod58

That about sums it up, Zaph.

a reply to: seagull

Someone posted a meme the other day that brought back memories.

"Don't look at nothin, don't touch nothin, don't ask for nothin, cause you ain't gettin nothin."

It might help too if we stopped the push to tribalism too.

Today everyone seems to need a politically acceptable identity group to belong to. That's how you fit into the stack and pack. It's like an extreme form of cliquishness that now progresses well beyond your high school years, and there is socially acceptable bullying at work if you don't move to conform and put yourself in one or more of those boxes.

One of the ways I used to deal with not really fitting in to one of the cliques was to constantly tell myself that when I got to college, it was a whole new social landscape and no one would know me and I could start over.

Now, colleges are ruled by their own forms of clique -- the PC identity group tribes, and if you don't belong to one of the one you know your'e going to to be assigned is low status ... well, sucks to be you. Either you try to pick up a victim identity or you have little to look forward to ... or at least, that's how it looks.

I'd say it gets better, but one tribe already has that slogan staked out.

a reply to: thekaboose

Excellent Points. Being a Good Person towards others and yourself goes a long way to solving lots of societal issues. This isn't Rocket Science here.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

Trench coat-wearing shooter identified as Dimitrios Pagourtzis, 17

www.ksat.com...

All over the place, actually.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: PageLC14
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Which is exactly why parents need to keep tabs on what their kids do on the internet. They wanna complain about privacy? Oh well, they're kids, they don't get to have privacy. I didn't. My parents went through my stuff on a weekly basis and if they ever saw me participating in some kind of creepy cult group I would've had a ton of 'splainin to do and all privileges taken away

I have 2 kids they were given a choice. I can monitor social media meaning I have to have all passwords and will log in to Thierry accounts or no social media. My son decided he would rather do without then have mom and dad read his mags. Daughter decided it was more important to be on snap chat.

He just doesn't want you finding his porn on his phone..... LOL. KIds will find a Social Media to get on if you totally block them. That rebellion thing.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: TinfoilTP

And yet I wore a trench coat all the time. Had one that I made warm weather friendly that I changed into while in class. The main coat had a caduceus on the lapel (gift from a friend), captain bars on the epaulets and a purple scarf. There was also a large safety pin in button hole (gift from a girlfriend). I often wore slacks, sometimes purple and sometimes white with a row of black buttons down the legs from yep, my first trench coat. This was the mid to late 80’s and let’s just say I was a clique of my own, but funky for even 80’s standards. I could pull a variety of things from my pockets as there was a collection of random things stored. Some useful like a three foot tape measure or 6 in 1 screwdriver set, some just mementos of various sorts.

Trench coat mafia before there was such a thing, I suppose. Been called all sorts of things from the king of random to just plain creepy. Still get that from people from time to time. Never bothered me at all. Never valued the opinion of others disparaging words.

Somehow despite all this, I never shot up anything school or otherwise.

That is because you didn't join a social network that worships school shooters, your story is disconnected from the topic.

a reply to: Ahabstar

From Your Article:

Pagourtzis was involved in extracurricular activities, including football According to an AP report, Pagourtzis played on the Santa Fe High School junior varsity football team. Pagourtzis was also a member of a dance squad with a local Greek Orthodox church.

Patterson, 16, told the reporter that Pagourtzis didn’t show signs of being bullied and that he was interested in guns and war simulation video games. However, Patterson said Pagourtzis never talked about killing people.

“The kid that did it, I’ve talked to him before. He just snapped. He didn’t seem like he would ever do that,” Sederin said. “He’s been picked on by coaches before for smelling bad and stuff like that and he doesn’t talk to very many people either. He keeps to himself and he wears a trench coat every day and it’s like 90 degrees out here.”

WTG Teach....... Set the example.

Abbott said Pagourtzis used shotgun and a .38 revolver in the shooting.

You don't even need assault rifles to do it. There goes the Assault Weapon Ban Crowd.


Sometimes we just will never be able to stop some of these things. All this technology has made people lonely and sadder it seems.

Maybe more details will help figure it out.

Emotions create a bias and often times rationality is throw out the window as a result.

originally posted by: ketsuko
It might help too if we stopped the push to tribalism too.

Today everyone seems to need a politically acceptable identity group to belong to. That's how you fit into the stack and pack. It's like an extreme form of cliquishness that now progresses well beyond your high school years, and there is socially acceptable bullying at work if you don't move to conform and put yourself in one or more of those boxes.

One of the ways I used to deal with not really fitting in to one of the cliques was to constantly tell myself that when I got to college, it was a whole new social landscape and no one would know me and I could start over.

Now, colleges are ruled by their own forms of clique -- the PC identity group tribes, and if you don't belong to one of the one you know your'e going to to be assigned is low status ... well, sucks to be you. Either you try to pick up a victim identity or you have little to look forward to ... or at least, that's how it looks.

I'd say it gets better, but one tribe already has that slogan staked out.

There is also a tribe who points out those tribes
on a regular basis. To the point they are their own tribe and have their own tribe media. I used to like Shapiro and Crowder but now wonder if they are just another tribe. I tend to like joe rogan. He finds a way to get a lot of different opinions to have conversations.

It's no different to constantly point out those tribes and be part of the tribe pointing out those tribes.


To break tho cycle you have to treat people as individuals. Stop blaming the other tribe for why things are the way they are.

a reply to: luthier

There was an interesting article about the destruction of the old racial paradigm in the country.

The premise was that before the ground on which we all find ourselves today, and I think no one thinks we're better off today, certain groups were very careful never to claim any kind of group identity status for themselves and never pointed out or felt bothered by the other groups doing so, and in return, those other groups made sure that they only made accusations of racism or abuse by the dominant groups very, very rarely.

As I'm sure you can see, those old rules no longer apply, and we're all racing to write new rules or create a new paradigm, and this new tribalistic age is a product of that.

a reply to: ketsuko

Dp you think blacks were better off coming home from ww2 or korea and having to go to a back alley to get fed while the non blacks ate in the diner?

Things are complicated. They always have been. But treating people as individuals can help change that.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

They didn’t exist back then. Not that I would a part of that. My “networking” was also atypical back then: politicians, local celebrities, training in counseling techniques by professionals, community theater, drug and alcohol education groups...in other words part of society and was friends with adults and teens alike instead of sequestered in group think and easily influenced/manipulated.

But my point is that scrutinizing people based on outward initial appearances can be deceiving.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: ketsuko

Dp you think blacks were better off coming home from ww2 or korea and having to go to a back alley to get fed while the non blacks ate in the diner?

Things are complicated. They always have been. But treating people as individuals can help change that.

But I wasn't talking about going back that far. This was post Civil Rights. After the turbulence of the Civil Rights Era, this was the accord things had settled into.

Source ...

The author argues that this is a Trump era thing, but I would say this erosion began with the fundamental transformation of America and the rise of CRT and Intersectionalism as dominant thought on campus.

I pay for the phones so I can load spy software on them.