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Texas school shooting suspect targeted girl who denied his advances, her mother says

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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Many issues here. Life is easy do to having a good life in a broader way then ever before. Social media is a constant voice of technology stupid, lack of physical exercise and healthy competition, hormones in food, a pill to fix everything.

I know you strongly believe it's school endoctrination but I don't think it is. I think it's life in general and such a fast departure from how we evolved for 100's of thousands of years.




posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Do you have pictures of these pins and symbols...color me oblivious, but interested....theres a Columbiner pin? wtf who the hell makes and markets that pin?

eta. saw the pin on the other page. So its more of an adoption of a symbol or symbols.
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Question answered thanks Augustus.
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: luthier

I tend to agree with you on the massive paradigm shift that has occured socially. We are not mature enough as a species for instant, unaccountable communication.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: kurthall
Where does it say he wore a "Colubiner" Pin???????????????? Also the Cult???? I saw none of that on your Fox news link. Seems to me your trying to make this fit your Agenda.


I've never heard the hammer and sickle referred to as that but the kid was wearing one, an iron cross and a Baphomet pin.


Other photos shared on Pagourtzis’s page the same day in April depicted a dark-colored trenchcoat festooned with various insignia, including the Nazi Iron Cross, which the teen wrote stood for ‘bravery.’

Additional patches on the garb included the rising sun, a Communist hammer and sickle pin and a depiction of the idol Baphomet, which Pagourtzis said symbolized ‘Evil.’ [url=https://thedailycoin.org/2018/05/20/did-texas-school-shooter-dimitrios-pagourtzis-have-links-to-antifa-or-was-he-just-copying-columbine/]Source.[ /url]







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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
The lil bastard couldn't get laid.

Sexuality is playing a big role here.

Bisexual jewelry symbol he displayed.

He also displayed a "Columbiner" pendant that other school shooters wore as they shot up their schools. It specifically represents "pansexuals" who lust after school shooters.

If you have a child in middle school or high school, have them be on the lookout for any weirdo loser kids that display the "Columbiner" pin. If you see it on any student get your kid out of that school system as fast as possible and never go back. It is the kiss of death. Once the social media driven "Columbiner" cult has infiltrated the school through some weak minded sex starved freak, the odds of a shooting go up astronomically. Government will never investigate fully, they only want to take guns.

Source


Here is a psychologist's resource page on school shooters
Resource


Or you could, you know... try to reach these people on a basic level, tell them that it isnt as bad as they think, convince them that what they plan to do is wrong and that they are human. They deserve to be treated such...

Not branded as losers and freaks. Stop the bullying and spare the lives of the innocents.

Also

"Mother says"

Because she knew exactly the day to day ins and outs of the shooter. Stop pandering to MSM



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: thekaboose

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
The lil bastard couldn't get laid.

Sexuality is playing a big role here.

Bisexual jewelry symbol he displayed.

He also displayed a "Columbiner" pendant that other school shooters wore as they shot up their schools. It specifically represents "pansexuals" who lust after school shooters.

If you have a child in middle school or high school, have them be on the lookout for any weirdo loser kids that display the "Columbiner" pin. If you see it on any student get your kid out of that school system as fast as possible and never go back. It is the kiss of death. Once the social media driven "Columbiner" cult has infiltrated the school through some weak minded sex starved freak, the odds of a shooting go up astronomically. Government will never investigate fully, they only want to take guns.

Source


Here is a psychologist's resource page on school shooters
Resource


Or you could, you know... try to reach these people on a basic level, tell them that it isnt as bad as they think, convince them that what they plan to do is wrong and that they are human. They deserve to be treated such...

Not branded as losers and freaks. Stop the bullying and spare the lives of the innocents.

Also

"Mother says"

Because she knew exactly the day to day ins and outs of the shooter. Stop pandering to MSM


Or label this Columbiner group what it is, domestic terrorist group then yank their sick twisted supporters out of school when they get outed. They can all be found quite easily by monitoring social medial.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

So not one of them is redeemable? They are all scum that need to be taken out? I mean, who would miss a few kids right?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:14 AM
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My opinion, there is really only one main issue:

Parenting.

If parents paid more attention to their kids, spent more time actually getting to know them, listen to them and help them through their problems, and stopped feeding them pills thinking that helps in any way, I believe we wouldnt be having this discussion.

We don't have a mental health problem or a bullying problem or gun problem. We have a parenting problem.


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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:40 AM
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Once the social media driven "Columbiner" cult has infiltrated the school through some weak minded sex starved freak, the odds of a shooting go up astronomically.


Yeah because ostracizing the mentally ill who haven't been laid are freaks-I pray this is satire.

i'm going to leave this here and back away slowly before I get shot by an insecure nymphomaniac




posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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And when we find them, we should make them wear something to warn people that they're different and could be dangerous. I don't know, maybe an arm band of some kind. Something really obvious that shows they're non conformist.....
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Macenroe82

I also read that one of the students claimed the shooter liked to wear trench coats.
Rings a bell for the so called "Trench Coat Mafia"


Are not trench coats so 1990s? What group still wears them still today as style?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: TinfoilTP

And when we find them, we should make them wear something to warn people that they're different and could be dangerous. I don't know, maybe an arm band of some kind. Something really obvious that shows they're non conformist.....


Maybe a special star and then also if there are enough, place them into special "camps" where they can be concentrated into one place.

(being sarcastic by the way for anyone that does not get what tragedy I am alluding too).
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58

And when we find them, we should make them wear something to warn people that they're different and could be dangerous. I don't know, maybe an arm band of some kind. Something really obvious that shows they're non conformist.....


Well there is the crux of it all. How do we not become thought police punishing thought crimes? In many of these cases there isn't much that can be done before the person goes on a shooting spree because it is all still thought. We can say oh the kid was always in trouble, but how many millions of kids are in trouble, but do not want to mass kill... When you get 5 out of millions that do there is no way to catch that without becoming thought police on millions first.

I still feel the failing is in the home and with the internet. The development of these monsters is over many years of slow maturing into a killer with unsupervised internet access. Kids today can see all the porn, snuff films, death and destruction they want. They can then find like minded people/groups/clubs to discuss all that as they make them their friends instead of real people at their schools while involved in activities there.

Do this to a 10-12 year old and see what you get 6 or 7 years later.

His parents said they had no idea that their son could do this when he was painfully obvious if they just looked and got involved in his life.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Funding school mental health services.

No go from 0 to police kicking down doors.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

The problem started getting worse when parents began to be punished for disciplining their children and were told they had to be friends with their child. You can't be they're friend and their parent at the same time. So now we have children that have parents going to job interviews with them to make sure they're fair, parents that lose their damn mind because some evil teacher gave mommy's perfect angel a B, etc.

Throw in the instant validation of social media and thousands of "friends" and more likes for the more outrageous thing they do, and you have people like that girl that disemboweled a cat on Instagram, or the people that beat the hell out of someone for no reason, because it gets more likes, and shows they're special.

There's a fine line between monitoring and seeing something that gets reported and a witch hunt. Ostracism isn't the way to go. Many of these shooters have been ostracized for most of their school lives because they're Different. What the OP wants will almost guarantee that someone is going to snap. Until we start dealing with the mental health crisis in this country, and let parents be parents again, without the stigma and ostracizing that goes on about it, nothing will change.
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:13 AM
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I didn't say it was all school, but I do think school is a piece of the puzzle.

We spend so much time trying to insulate our kids from every negative experience so that no one ever feels bad that when they do finally experience it (everyone does), no one has coping skills. Then you have kids who have grown up in poor environments where they weren't properly raised and parented and then they have nothing to fall back on -- no support mechanism at all.

You do this to a socially awkward child and what do you think happens?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

Just to clear some things... at what point did "Columbiner" mean pansexual?



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Just to clear some things... at what point did "Columbiner" mean pansexual?


When they describe themselves as such.



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: DrumsAreDumb
a reply to: Xtrozero

Funding school mental health services.

No go from 0 to police kicking down doors.


Not necessarily...

I mean don't get me wrong, drugging up kids isn't the way either. A lad I went to school with got nothing but grief when others found out he was on pills for anger issues. He ended up in a bit trouble, ironically he got angry and resorted to violence.

At the same time though the teenage years are pivotal in terms of the developing brain. Personally I think that parents should do more, be enabled to do more. I don't know many parents who are experts in human psychology though.

Some things naturally need addressing and in my opinion some things are best faced sooner rather than later.

Mental health, work towards this issue is mainly educational. Teaching a person how to manage issues. Teaching discipline and coping mechanisms.

It's seldom ever about finding out how crazy a person is so you can catch them out and send the old bill round to knock the parents door down.

We all learn, usually. It's a damn shame if a kid grows up with severe anxiety for instance and develops traits that will eventually need tackling. Habits and developed issues only get harder to tackle in time.

As always, just my opinion.



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