Several years ago information came forward about the 4th 'Black' Pyramid at Giza, which is considered "Lost" because it is no longer present and was
allegedly dismantled sometime around the 1700s to 1800s and it's stones used for other constructions.
This thread written here on ATS presents the claim but does not investigate it for
further corroboration or attempt to debunk it.
However I want to know more, and I want to know if there was really a 4th Pyramid at Giza that was destroyed. It is such a fantastic claim and if it
were true than it would have significant implications about our understanding of the Pyramids in general and about the astronomy of the ancients,
among other things.
First I will give a little background information so that you will be up to speed:
I. The Lost Black Pyramid
The only actual source of this claim is a small snippet from the book "Voyage d'Egypte et de Nubie" (1755), by Frederic Norden (1708-1742), which was
published after his death.
Specifically of relevance is this particular description he gave of the mystery pyramid:
It is without coating, closed and resembles the others, but without any temple like the ﬁrst. It has however one particular deserving remark;
which is, that its summit is terminated by a single great stone, which seems to have served as a pedestal…the fourth pyramid has been made,
upwards above the middle, of a stone more black than the common granite, and at least as hard. Its summit is of a yellowish stone. I shall speak
elsewhere of its top, which terminates in a cube. It is, moreover, situated out of the line of the others, being more to the west…it makes
a series with the three others
Then, with this foundation, the theory is applied to everything else and any illustrations or paintings of 4 pyramids are to be viewed as this “Lost
Pyramid”, and the idea that it ‘might be’ the largest of the Queen’s Pyramids of Menkaure is ignored.
II. This “Lost Pyramid” does not fit into the “Orion Hypothesis”.
As many of you already know, the Pyramid complex aligns with the constellation Orion, and the Pyramids themselves with it’s “Belt” stars. There
is plenty of information about this to research.
Not only that, but many Pyramid complexes around the world also fit the angles of Orion very well. Here is an example photograph. Notice the third
smaller one is off center and at an angle from the second one:
So in fact, the “Lost Pyramid” hypothesis does not fit into the Orion theory and it goes completely against it. It would not make sense to have a
fourth pyramid when all of these other locations (China, Mexico) are in complete agreement with the Giza complex, yet they do not have a fourth
structure in the area we are supposing one may have been.
In fact the Saqqara complex even aligns with the Pleiades and with the Giza complex mirroring the constellations in the sky very closely in respect to
III. Misinterpretation and poor sources.
It is common that people misinterpret things written especially after those writings have been translated through various languages, much can be lost
in that process.
The stone was darker than “common granite”, but that does not mean it was black. The stone was “at least as hard”, which is somewhat ambiguous
because it could have been only a slightly different grain of the same type of stone.
Also notice that none of these illustrations agree with each other perfectly and there are many discrepancies.
All of these illustrations are very dated:
That last one even shows a Pyramid right across the river? That’s odd.
IV. No Other Evidence At All
I cannot find any other evidence to support the claim of this lost pyramid at all. Not even photographs of stones laying about or anything. There
seems to be nothing to find... if anyone knows of more evidence please share!
After looking into this matter very deeply and doing a lot of research, I am convinced that the most likely situation is that this is a case of
misinterpretation and poor information, and that the “Black Pyramid” is in fact the larger Queen’s satellite Pyramid of Menkaure, which is
actually slightly darker than the others if in the correctly lit conditions.
I created this graphic to explain why the Line of Sight would have blocked Norden’s suggested location and made the common drawings not in agreement
with it, and that actually what is lined up perfectly is the Queen’s Pyramid. The size ratios and distance ratios appear to match up very well with
all of these historic illustrations give or take some room for error.
This photo shows the "Lost 4th Pryamid" as it is today:
I rate it as extremely unlikely to exist. I believe it was the Queen's Pyramid.
Here is a video discussing this a little more:
Here are links for sources where I got pictures and more information: Graham Hancock
Being a big "fan" of egypt both the desert and the reefs, I found your thread very interesting.
I don´t know if it´s still possible today but if anyone visits egypt, try to get a tour inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. Don´t listen to the
explanations of the tour-guide, just watch & observe. It´s a very special feeling being inside.
At the end of the twelfth century al-Malek al-Aziz Othman ben Yusuf, Saladin's son and heir, attempted to demolish the pyramids, starting with
Menkaure's. The workmen whom Al-Aziz had recruited to demolish the pyramid stayed at their job for eight months, but found it almost as expensive to
destroy as to build. They could only remove one or two stones each day.
Due to such conditions, they could only damage the pyramid by leaving a large vertical gash in its north face.
I would think logically it would be in sequence with the star locations the Pyramids copy. The illustration two up from the video with the green
reference. Agreeing with your "V. Conclusion". That seems the place to look.
"The only actual source of this claim is a small snippet from the book "Voyage d'Egypte et de Nubie" (1755), by Frederic Norden (1708-1742), which was
published after his death".
That is 250 years, a long time for legends to arise. What was the motive for Frederic's book, ?.. Funding for more exploration ? Many variables ?
Indeed, I had never heard of this Black Pyramid.
never knew a pyramid cap was found .
To bad the pyramids are in such bad shape I can only imange what they looked like new .
And yes they are fascinating . No aliens needed for that no magical form of building needed they are magic all by them self .
just thinking loudly, and im no expert in this, any significant star in that constellation would be either Betelgeuse,Rigel or Sirius, but all of
them are so far away in different directions but then again why build something like that so far away
Could be total BS but it sounds/looks pretty cool. I will enjoy spreading the information.
Then I will add to it because I cannot help myself. Did you know they modeled Lake Erie to match exactly the canals around Atlantis? The Knights
Templar engineered it after they built Angkor Wat. It's a sickness I guess
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