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originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Pyle
The NYT article only says they met with an informant. A person can turn informant AFTER they meet with people or join organizations. For all we know that informant was Pence.
Pence ?
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originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Pyle
Steele, Halper, Downer et. al. Foreign national spies being directed in a dirty up operation by double-agent John "The Devil Inside" Brennan.
It appears Strzok is a CIA plant in the FBI too. They do that ya' know.
originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Grambler
How about when the fbi gets a fisa warrant to wiretap a phone?
No, no, no.
They got the FISA warrant to access all the stored up data the NSA has been collecting on this individual. The whole shebang. A searchable database of his NSA data. That's why the "Carter Page already left the campaign" argument rings hollow. It's why all the egregious unmasking of other US citizens who are also supposed to be protected in those intercepts is going to come back in to play.
"Tapping" the phones in Trump Tower would be the least of their problems it seems as this unfolds.
originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh, you could just type out what you mean instead of memes. It would help people take you seriously.
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
I dont know how much more clear it can be made for you.
2 spy
noun
Definition of spy
plural spies
1 : one that spies:
a : one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information
originally posted by: Pyle
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh, you could just type out what you mean instead of memes. It would help people take you seriously.
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
I dont know how much more clear it can be made for you.
You could always try Merrialm-Webster
2 spy
noun
Definition of spy
plural spies
1 : one that spies: a : one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information
in·form·ant
inˈfôrmənt/
noun
a person who gives information to another.
originally posted by: Rewey
originally posted by: Pyle
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
If you want to argue along those lines, fine. I would suggest that the FBI are acting as law enforcement so long as any information received from the 'informant' remains in the vacuum of the FBI while they undertake due process.
The very second that any of the information received from the 'informant' is shared or leaked to Obama, HRC, the DNC, or the press, then I would argue yes, they are acting as spies.
I believe there is enough evidence to suggest that the sharing of that information did happen.
originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh, you could just type out what you mean instead of memes. It would help people take you seriously.
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
I dont know how much more clear it can be made for you.
originally posted by: Pyle
Good because we dont know anything about said informant or what information he passed to this day.
Okay smart guy why did they keep Trump Campaign investigations secret before the election if they were trying to stop Trump from becoming president but released the # out of Clinton's investigations?
originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: notsure1
Secret except for all the selective and suggestive leaking. Their contradicting lies and excuses actually work on some. It boggles.
originally posted by: Pyle
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Oh, you could just type out what you mean instead of memes. It would help people take you seriously.
Right spies are spies...
FBI are law enforcement not spies.
I dont know how much more clear it can be made for you.
You could always try Merrialm-Webster
2 spy
noun
Definition of spy
plural spies
1 : one that spies: a : one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information
in·form·ant
inˈfôrmənt/
noun
a person who gives information to another.
They are different things! WHO KNEW!?
The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.
This paragraph is noteworthy for the way it describes spying on the campaign — “at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos” — before suggesting that might not be spying. The definition of spying is to secretly collect information, so it’s not really in dispute whether a government informant fits the bill.
Despite two years of investigation and surveillance, none of these men have been charged with anything even approaching treasonous collusion with Russia to steal a U.S. election.
6. More Leaks About a Top-Secret Government Informant
The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence recently subpoenaed information from the FBI and Department of Justice. They did not publicly reveal what information they sought, but the Department of Justice responded by claiming that they were being extorted by congressional oversight. Then they leaked that they couldn’t share the information because it would jeopardize the life of a government informant. They also waged a public relations battle against HPSCI Chairman Nunes and committee staff.
But far from holding the information close to the vest, the government has repeatedly leaked information about this informant, and even that it was information about an informant that was being sought by Congress. From leaks of personally identifying information to the Washington Post, we’ve learned that this source works with the FBI and CIA, and is a U.S. citizen.
In The New York Times, additional information about a government informant leaked, including that the source met with Papadopoulos and Page to collect information. The information on an alleged source in the Trump campaign is so sensitive they can’t give it to Congress, but they can leak it to friendly press outlets like the Post and Times. It’s an odd posture for the Justice Department to take.
10 Key Takeaways From The New York Times’ Error-Ridden Defense Of FBI Spying On Trump Campaign