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ICE claimed Dreamer was gang-affiliated and tried to deport. Federal judge ruled ICE was lying

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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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For every single illegal alien deported, that is 3 less democrat votes!

JESUS!

Stop the deportation or we'll NEVER get Pelosi back in power!!!!!!!!!!




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

The SCOTUS has ruled they do, that a good enough reason?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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But rights be damned? Due process be damned? Rights and protections only apply to people I agree with right?


No, rights and protection only apply to CITIZENS. Why, oh why in the everloving blue hell would anyone apply United States' Constitutional protections to people who aren't United States' citizens? My God, who else in the world does that crap?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Even if that’s the case is it right to break up families now? Because it’s the Democrats fault?



No, because they are here illegally. If a citizens gets caught doing something illegal there is no quarter, no sanctuary city to run to, no get out of jail free card.

What world are you living in?

As long as we live in a nation where the laws a person has to follow depends on how much money they have we don’t live in a nation of laws. The ideological one you inhabit seems nice but that isn’t how things really are.

What concessions in your daily life would you have to make if this man stayed? Or am I correct in assuming it wouldn’t effect you in the slightest?



Well...laws are laws. The term "illegal" typically means you don't follow laws. Did I miss something?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Did Trump find those 5 million illegal votes yet to Hillary? Gosh, haven't even come across one piece of evidence from his administration.

Gosh.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

According to them, illegals have all the rights that we have.

That would include the 2nd Amendment. Which would explain why Obama worked so hard to arm MS13.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: DBCowboy

Did Trump find those 5 million illegal votes yet to Hillary? Gosh, haven't even come across one piece of evidence from his administration.

Gosh.


His mistake.

He probably asked the FBI to look into it.




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I sense that the "illegals don't have rights" argument is incoming.



Because they don't... Good Lord, for your next trick are you going to predict the sun will drop beneath the horizon within the next 24 hours?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The SCOTUS has ruled they do, that a good enough reason?


Sure....shoot me the link to their ruling please.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Why, oh why in the everloving blue hell would anyone apply United States' Constitutional protections to people who aren't United States' citizens? My God, who else in the world does that crap?

Because constitutional protections are limits on government and not rights granted to people.

Every country that uses the constitutional republic format does that crap although I'm not sure why you would call it crap if you value the constitution.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: burdman30ott6

According to them, illegals have all the rights that we have.


According to me, their heads up in the clouds where the law is concerned... at least the law everyone outside of the 9th Circuit Court's liberal activist judges follows.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Why, oh why in the everloving blue hell would anyone apply United States' Constitutional protections to people who aren't United States' citizens? My God, who else in the world does that crap?

Because constitutional protections are limits on government and not rights granted to people.


OK, freeze everyone... we've just been told the BILL OF RIGHTS are not rights granted to the people.


Get you a Constitutional understanding that can be both, because the document is absolutely a list of inalienable RIGHTS for citizens alongside clear limits on government.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian


Meanwhile does anyone even have a number on how many over the last 10 years from all quarters of the earth have been issued these "indefinite stay" passports and cards that look like drivers license? I have seen them both.

If you ask me this other stuff is a shake and bake fane slight of hand. BS in other words.



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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Why, oh why in the everloving blue hell would anyone apply United States' Constitutional protections to people who aren't United States' citizens? My God, who else in the world does that crap?

Because constitutional protections are limits on government and not rights granted to people.


OK, freeze everyone... we've just been told the BILL OF RIGHTS are not rights granted to the people.


Get you a Constitutional understanding that can be both, because the document is absolutely a list of inalienable RIGHTS for citizens alongside clear limits on government.


But but but....I thought it was open to my own interpretation! And even more I thought it was based on what I feel! /sarcasm



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: DBCowboy

Did Trump find those 5 million illegal votes yet to Hillary? Gosh, haven't even come across one piece of evidence from his administration.

Gosh.


An extended family member of mine by marriage is an illegal and lives in San Antonio Texas.

Last Presidential election, he and others in the family (legal and illegal) answered a local ad, got on a bus, was given 5 names for the day. The bus went to 5 different counties where he used the names given to him on an index card in order to vote "D" across the board. They were bought lunch and given $250 cash each when they got back to the Riverwalk. They still brag about how stupid Republicans are.

So screw you and your "illegals don't vote" crap.

It happens a lot in the real world.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: Guyfriday



Thanks for clearing that up and once again, shame on the Op for politicizing events.


No not shame on the OP. Shame on the media they are the ones that are politicizing this issue. The Op just bought into it (or not maybe the OP will come back and explain their position a little better after reviewing the facts)


originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Guyfriday

No...not the truth! That does nothing for the narrative!

It's like the folks that thought it would be cool to join ISIS and kill people, then when it got tough they decided it wasn't for them anymore and wanted back in.

Sorry...consequences suck but you reap what you sow....

These hit piece stories get so old.


Oh you want narrative? How about a story overview instead?

This issue is all "Doctor Seuss'ed up".
We have a "welcoming city that will ignore to adore"
a "Chief of police the flees with the geese"
a "Mayor that can't lead, but adores to believe"
and finally a "populace that's feed up, to the point of distrust"

The Seuss'ed up title for Seattle is called "The Sore Attle, with minds that Rattle"



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6


Any excuse to keep illegals here, never mind the laws and legal citizens' best interests involved...
*spit*


I do not know why the left supports HUMAN TRAFFICKING packaged up as "undocumented immigrants" to make it sound better.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Even if that’s the case is it right to break up families now? Because it’s the Democrats fault?


They should have thought of that when they entered the country illegally. These illegals seem to have zero accountability for the repercussions of their actions. Stop blaming others for breaking up their families FFS, they have no-one to blame but themselves and I'm sick of being responsible for their bad decisions. They come here and abuse the system all while playing the "poor me" card. Do you ever stop and think about why they flee their own country? They're to f'n lazy to fix their own country, so it's much easier for them to go somewhere else and ride on the coattails of others that have actually done all the hard work for them. I used to have compassion for them until I saw firsthand that they don't give a chit about me or this country. Anyone that thinks they give a crap about them or this country is an idiot. Let them go back and fix their own problems in their own country. This would require a lot of work, so they just leave........WTF?. I think they're spineless cowards myself, screw them.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

I'm sure you have heard of U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark. There is also Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886)


The guarantees of protection contained in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution extend to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States, without regard to differences of race, of color, or of nationality.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Southern Guardian

I sense that the "illegals don't have rights" argument is incoming.


No argument . Fact. When convicted of a Federal Law a person has no rights.
Learn a little of US laws before you post anything of US Laws.



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