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This new Childish Gambino Song Promotes Divisive Lies

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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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a reply to: Thejoncrichton

I already explained the stats,

They don't show a correlation and causation. They show spikes and concentration of crime that skew the over all stats.


Alaska has the highest crime per capita and a very extreme low black population. How is this explained?

If I choose to draw assumption conclusion I would say it's because there are no blacks...

Which makes no sense.

Same reason when you look at rural blacknpopulations they have the same level of crime as whites.


Imagine a poisonous center near a white population making people sick. We could say white people get sick at a higher rate because the data shows this. Or we could say there is a cause for the anomaly.

Black people are people. They are individuals and should be treated as such.


Putting blacks in a category is the same thing socialists do when they give special privledge to people based on race. It may be opposite but it is the same mind set.

Are black ceo's more violent?

Black dr's?

These shallow conclusions drawn are simply in helpful to anyone.




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Thejoncrichton

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated
You don't understand the study of statistics. Which is not looking at numbers and drawing a conclusion.

Or perhaps whites are very violent. Alaska being the worst per capita state..followed by new Mexico and Nevada. Not real black states.

Since this isn't the actual scientific way to study things a normal person knows statistics don't prove causation.



Stats prove who is committing more crime. You may not like the answer the numbers give, but they are legitimate and they prove there is no white threat against black Americans. You just seem angry that you can't produce stats to back your position.





I think the stats show that white people commit more crime.

Do you even statistics bro?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Thejoncrichton

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated
You don't understand the study of statistics. Which is not looking at numbers and drawing a conclusion.

Or perhaps whites are very violent. Alaska being the worst per capita state..followed by new Mexico and Nevada. Not real black states.

Since this isn't the actual scientific way to study things a normal person knows statistics don't prove causation.



Stats prove who is committing more crime. You may not like the answer the numbers give, but they are legitimate and they prove there is no white threat against black Americans. You just seem angry that you can't produce stats to back your position.





I think the stats show that white people commit more crime.

Do you even statistics bro?


Yes. Link was provided.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Thejoncrichton

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated
You don't understand the study of statistics. Which is not looking at numbers and drawing a conclusion.

Or perhaps whites are very violent. Alaska being the worst per capita state..followed by new Mexico and Nevada. Not real black states.

Since this isn't the actual scientific way to study things a normal person knows statistics don't prove causation.



Stats prove who is committing more crime. You may not like the answer the numbers give, but they are legitimate and they prove there is no white threat against black Americans. You just seem angry that you can't produce stats to back your position.





Facts are racist...

If you can't prove the facts are racists, then you have to pull other variables out of your azz to make them racists...

If you can't do that, then you have to claim the source of the data is racist.

If you can't do that, you just claim the other person doesn't know what they are talking about...

If that fails, just blame Trump.


Facts are not racist. The conclusions people draw from them are. They often draw cofirmation bias. In this case they are used to show the bias towards blacks.

I guess white people are violent without blacks. Since the three top states have low black populations this is what we can draw from the data.

Without blacks to magically suck all the crime to themselves whites become barbaric and violent like in Alaska.
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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:44 PM
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I think the real problem is that the police are not enforcing the law in black communities because they are more concerned about lawsuits, false accusations and bad public relations. as a result blacks commit more crimes because they feel insecure without authority guiding them or protecting their families. they have no guidance from society so they act out as a call for help, as a measure of desperation and they even become resentful towards whites for the feelings of abandonment and loneliness they feel because of how police ignore their communities to save face.

social justice white people are causing the police to abandon blacks because they want to try being heroes, bringing justice to poor helpless blacks and jump on everything that ever happens to blacks, when the police are doing their jobs, as racist.

they have become unable to enforce the law because of this, because they can't afford lawsuits and a bad reputation, in the end, these white social justice warriors are bringing more problems for black people, not help.

black people need guidance from authority, just like every other human being, but it's not being given to them so of course they will commit more crimes and of course other blacks in those same communities will be more likely to become victims. use some logic here people.

in my opinion, the end of this video where he's being chased by white people is all about social justice warriors being more concerned about their justice and statistics than they are about black people, arguing back and forth while not doing a damn thing about it. treating black people like a spectator sport, like something to entertain themselves with.

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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: karmicecstasy

originally posted by: Carcharadon

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have a question. Do you think that pointing out the amount of black-on-black crime mean the issues that David Glover pointed out aren't true? Because to me that sounds like a whataboutism fallacy? Do you honestly believe there is only one possible issue affecting the black community and it is black on black crime?


Who is David Glover?


Childish Gambino is a character that the comedian and actor Donald Glover uses to make music.


I know who he is. Glover is an amazing talent. Love his music and his character Troy on Community is one of the funniest characters on tv.

I was merely pointing out that if you are going to have a long winded diatribe you should at least know the guys name.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:04 PM
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only black people can help themselves, white social justice warriors need to back off with their false sense of justice and hypocrisy, they aren't helping anybody fix these problems, hiding reality behind statistics won't ever fix anything.

people don't actually care about statistics, they care more about action and inspirational figures, people of influence and inspiration for personal action is the way martin luther king jr, malcolm x, muhammad ali and every other black figure made such great changes during the civil rights era.

people focus too much on statistics and don't try to actually fix the problems or help blacks help themselves.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Carcharadon

I'm confused how you people are coming to the conclusion that what Glover is saying is that white people are the biggest problem affecting black people. Disregarding the fact that the rest of his work refutes this notion, there isn't a single white person in the music video.


I'm not. I'm fully aware of what Glover is saying. My comment was directed at the poster I responded to.

And what do you mean "you people?😎


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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated

Yeah because black gangs are in bed with the government.

Prior to jfk white gangs were in bed with the government.

The skin color isn't the issue here.

If you removed Detroit, st louis, south chicago the stats make a huge change.

Remove 10 concentrated areas they really change.

Now I understand or it seems at least you believe this is some kind of black problem but if that was the case you wouldn't be able to remove concentrated gang areas and change the stats..the stats would stay true showing blacks are more violent.

Some blacks in very specific concentrated areas due to socioeconimcs and the cycle of crime are more violent than the entire black population.

It's like taking the Irish in an Irish gang area of Boston in the 80's and saying the Irish are more dangerous criminals.

This is why nobody in science uses stats alone to interpret cause.


Are you trolling? Did you even comprehend what you just wrote... You can't be serious...


I love watching white people whitesplaine black issues to a black person. The gall that takes astounds me.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have a question. Do you think that pointing out the amount of black-on-black crime mean the issues that David Glover pointed out aren't true? Because to me that sounds like a whataboutism fallacy? Do you honestly believe there is only one possible issue affecting the black community and it is black on black crime?


I think it is logical to fix the gaping hole in the roof before you replace the area rug in one room.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Thejoncrichton

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated
You don't understand the study of statistics. Which is not looking at numbers and drawing a conclusion.

Or perhaps whites are very violent. Alaska being the worst per capita state..followed by new Mexico and Nevada. Not real black states.

Since this isn't the actual scientific way to study things a normal person knows statistics don't prove causation.



Stats prove who is committing more crime. You may not like the answer the numbers give, but they are legitimate and they prove there is no white threat against black Americans. You just seem angry that you can't produce stats to back your position.





I think the stats show that white people commit more crime.


Sure they do. But whites aren't 6-7% of the population like black males are right?

Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!!!!



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Edumakated


the out of wedlock birth rate in the black community wasn't even 25% in 1965 and even then it was considered too high versus the 75% it is now.


The out of wedlock birth rate in the black community was indeed about 24% in 1965. At the same time, the out of wedlock birth rate among whites was 3.1%.

It's now over 30% for whites and about 75% for blacks (and 50-someting % for hispanics). And of course, the numbers are skewed so that the younger the mother's age, the higher the percentage of out of wedlock births.

I think you're trying to find causation out of a correlation that isn't that great to begin with. You blame the "War on Poverty" for the rise in out of wedlock births in the black community but clearly that couldn't explain why they were 8x higher in 1965 than for whites.

So clearly some other factor(s) was/were at play to begin with. You also don't address that since then, while there's been a 3 fold increase in out of wedlock births among the black population, there's been a 10 fold increase among whites. And what about other racial/ethnic groups such as Native Americans where it's almost as high as for black folks?

So that's one problem with your argument. The second is aside from being a traditional "ideal" what is the actual usefulness of citing out of wedlock births when arguing for the health of a demographic?

The OP talks about black on black crimes so let's talk about crime. Given this "out of wedlock" hypothesis, one might predict that an increase in out of wedlock births would strongly correlate with increases in violent crime. However, the reality is that at the same time that the rates of out of wedlock births have drastically increased, violent crime rates have steadily fallen. The reality is the opposite of what would be expected if the out of wedlock hypothesis were true. If this was 1993, the out of wedlock hypothesis might *seem* to make more sense if you accounted for a lag between births and the ages when people are most likely to violent crimes but what's actually happened is that violent crime continued to decline even as out of wedlock births steadily increased.

More plausible factors would be things like deindustrialization or the increased market for coc aine and later crack (which I've seen a lot of sociologists attribute the homicide peak in the early 90s to).

It's not entirely unreasonable to look for correlations but as everyone knows, correlation is not causation. The same applies to the meme of Democratic mayors or black leaders. A bad leader with bad policies is less likely to preside over an improvement but at the same time, there are significant factors beyond their control and a bad leader can be in office when things are good and a good leader can be at the helm of a sinking ship that cannot be saved.

You think Clinton was just some sort of economic mastermind or that he and Gingrich were just so awesome that they pulled all the right levers at all the right times? Pfft. Clinton was in office between recessions and during the tech boom and left office as the bubble was bursting. Then you've got to look at the role of something like the price of oil in recessions.

I guess the point here is that trying to look for causation in singular factors in a massively complex system, identified through limited correlation, is a foolish pursuit. It happens all the time in politics unfortunately.


That's some tasty whitesplaining right there. Go on keep telling a black person how wrong he/she is about their community.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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This is all a very ignorant argument, and I'm willing to bet 1000USD that all the people that say blacks do not kill blacks are not willing to walk calmly into the hood and apologize for how 'oh so badly' they've been treated by white people.

Does anyone remember Compton in the 80s? The murder rate was so freaking high bodies would lay in alleys because they couldn't collect them all. For god sakes, I love Tupac, but does anyone listen to Gangsta Rap? The whole damn genre is literally about killing other blacks, and Fin Bs.

Get freaking real, dude. I've lived in the hood, and any time you hear sirens you know it ain't a white person that just got shot.

Smart black people move out of the hood and generally into white neighborhoods. BECAUSE IT'S FREAKING SAFE.
Get #ing real.


Hit em up
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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: Carcharadon


And what do you mean "you people?😎


I knew that was coming the second I wrote it.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: Milkweed
Racism against black people exists. The whole "black people kill black people" argument is tired and worn out.



Racism against white people exists

And white people are 20x more likely to be attacked by black people than black people agaist white people

I think you race card has expired and your racism washing though

Black people want revenge for something none of use ever did,

#Exposed
#Confirmed



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: Carcharadon

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Thejoncrichton

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Edumakated
You don't understand the study of statistics. Which is not looking at numbers and drawing a conclusion.

Or perhaps whites are very violent. Alaska being the worst per capita state..followed by new Mexico and Nevada. Not real black states.

Since this isn't the actual scientific way to study things a normal person knows statistics don't prove causation.



Stats prove who is committing more crime. You may not like the answer the numbers give, but they are legitimate and they prove there is no white threat against black Americans. You just seem angry that you can't produce stats to back your position.





I think the stats show that white people commit more crime.


Sure they do. But whites aren't 6-7% of the population like black males are right?

Deflect! Deflect! Deflect!!!!


So you agree that my assertion is correct, yet call it a deflection when I specifically addressed what was claimed?

That does not make sense.

Your argument is, assumedly, correct if we were to talk about per capita rates. The member in question did not make that specific caveat until after the fact.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:33 PM
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Thought it was a great video. Very artistically well done with good points.

It's important to understand that this is how he sees things and is representing his veiw point in an artistic way. There's nothing wrong with this. It's not divisive. It doesn't mean there aren't other issues.

If you want to talk divisive then you should be talking about the "news" shows on MSNBC, FOX News and Talk Radio and Huff Post. That's a way bigger divisivie issue than this song and music video.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Milkweed
Racism against black people exists. The whole "black people kill black people" argument is tired and worn out.



Racism against white people exists

And white people are 20x more likely to be attacked by black people than black people agaist white people

I think you race card has expired and your racism washing though

Black people want revenge for something none of use ever did,

#Exposed
#Confirmed


I'm white and no black person has ever wanted revenge on me. LOL You're making that up. But just to be sure I'll walk outside and If I dont' come back, I guess I was wrong and someone "Revenged" me.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: Carcharadon

That's some weak trolling there. So you would not like to argue with anything I said and your contribution is: "blah blar HARHAR I said 'whitesplain' to lib! Owned!" ?

You're not even using the term in the proper context.

Also, quoting a multi-paragraph post for a stupid ass one liner is lame af.
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