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But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.
This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.
It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.
And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.
Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.
As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.
Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.
In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.
What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.
Clearly, these figures are problematic.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I have a question. Do you think that pointing out the amount of black-on-black crime mean the issues that David Glover pointed out aren't true?
Because to me that sounds like a whataboutism fallacy? Do you honestly believe there is only one possible issue affecting the black community and it is black on black crime?
originally posted by: Milkweed
Racism against black people exists. The whole "black people kill black people" argument is tired and worn out.
originally posted by: bender151
a reply to: Thejoncrichton
I think you're missing a few key points
1) it's the artists opinion. He doesn't owe you facts.
But yeah, seeing a black man doing something successfully that doesn't fit with how you think he should be acting is the real problem.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Thejoncrichton
Who is "Childish Gambino" and how does their song fit in to this?
Have the lyrics or something?
originally posted by: Thejoncrichton
originally posted by: Milkweed
Racism against black people exists. The whole "black people kill black people" argument is tired and worn out.
It's just a fact. A fact that folks like you don't want to address while cast black Americans as the victims of white Americans. That facts and stats paint a very different picture.
originally posted by: Thejoncrichton
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Thejoncrichton
Who is "Childish Gambino" and how does their song fit in to this?
Have the lyrics or something?
You must be new to the internet. Let me youtube that for you.
Welcome to the World Wide Web, Surfer!
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Thejoncrichton
Because crunching numbers and using statistics for a on going social and quite known social issue means it's right.
Yea sure black on black crime happens, but the question is why. And the reasons are rather uncomfortable for a lot of people to swallow.
originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
The video is filled with references to "black on black" crime. It also references police killings of young black males.
originally posted by: Thejoncrichton
Black on black crime is an epidemic. Black men kill black men at rates no other group in this country comes close to including the majority. Don't you think this might have something to do with their police interactions? Doesn't it suggest that racism isn't the reason for these issues?
But we can't even ask these questions. Well, we can ask them but they aren't given any attention in popular media or academia and we're called racists for for it. They just push a political narrative that further divides us.
I'm saying that it's a crock to promote "Black Lives Matter" that is targeted at blaming white people and white racism, when the primary taker of black lives is black people. Not only that but they kill each other at rates nobody else comes close to when it comes to interracial murder. I'm offering alternate factors other than white people and racism.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Thejoncrichton
Who is "Childish Gambino" and how does their song fit in to this?
Have the lyrics or something?