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Support for the controlled demolition theory

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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 10:07 AM
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Yes Skyscrapers fall to the ground whenever fire strikes then.
You read about them all the time; concrete and steel superstructures
collapsing to dust because of office fires.
We really have to do something about our construction codes.




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: UnderKingsPeak
Like tbe partial collapse of the Madrid Windsor? The collapse of the Placso building in Tehran? The São Paulo building collapse?

And all three were not even damaged by large jet impacts?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Are you referring to the thermite papers.

Did Jones ever release the results of trying to burn the WTC dust in an inert atmosphere? The simplest test for thermite?

The papers fraudulently published as peer reviewed? By bypassing the paper’s referee? People that contributed to the paper were part of the peer review. Papers published in a proven pay to play journal.

Jone’s experiment results that cannot be duplicated?

More reliable individuals proving the chips are primer and paint.

With no results from the thermite camp in future promised testing.

With no coherent argument how the thermite devises were installed.

No evidence of columns cut by thermite.

With no explanation how the wiring and detonation systems survived jet impacts that cut columns, elevator cables, and fire water mains. And the floor to floor fires.


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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Plenty of others have been hit by airplanes? Even if that were true... None of them were hit by 767's, fully loaded with fuel and passengers, flying with deliberate intent at a large percentage of the speed of sound, into them. Or did I miss that?

The building were designed, from the outset, to withstand the impact of a much smaller 707, travelling at a much slower rate of speed.

As for the rest of it? It's what politicians do...take advantage of opportunities placed before them. We let 'em. That's on us, isn't it?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: UnderKingsPeak

Those were not, in even the remotest sense, "office" fires...certainly not your average office fire. Or did it escapes peoples notice that each of those planes carried 23000 gallons of aviation fuel on board?

There was nothing "office" fire about those fires--other than it was an office building.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015




The people who are putting forth the controlled demolition theory are just using the evidence of what happened.



What evidence? The opinion the towers fell to fast? Noticed that changes from they fell at the rate of free fall?

And the evidence of fraudulent thermite papers? With never releasing the results of promised future testing?

From a promised WTC 7 Evaluation delayed another year from public comment and release?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: dfnj2015




The people who are putting forth the controlled demolition theory are just using the evidence of what happened.



What evidence? The opinion the towers fell too fast? Noticed that changes from they fell at the rate of free fall?

And the evidence of fraudulent thermite papers? With never releasing the results of promised future testing?

From a promised WTC 7 Evaluation delayed another year from public comment and release?



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 12:12 PM
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Tony Szamboti in action?

www.metabunk.org...


could-girder-a2001-possibly-have-got-past-the-side-plate-on-column-79.t9069/
www.metabunk.org...




The JB Podcast Episode 22- Mick West & Tony Szamboti Debate
m.youtube.com...



Debates that show there is no credible proof of Cd



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: paraphi

Here is your problem:



and most others problem as well, they all would rather drink the Kool-Aid than see whats right in front of them. and to think there are so many more sheeple on this site than there ever have been before.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: gunshooter

Drink kool-aid like?

AE / Richard Gauge fizzle no flash explosives?
Jones and his fraudulent claims of thermite?
No jets, holograms lasers/missiles?
Nuke weapons?
Self destructing buildings?
Rebar covered in C-4?
Fire extinguisher bombs?
Dr. Wood and Dustification?

What am I supposed to believe over contracting floor tresses caused the vertical columns to bow in and buckle, resulting in collapse? When the mechanism is caught in the video evidence presented in the linked to thread below? With no evidence of detonations?



the-pre-collapse-inward-bowing-of-wtc2.t4760/
www.metabunk.org...



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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: seagull

There is some interesting history about "radio City" "Rockefeller Center" and the Radio Corporation of America circa 1919.
Different kind of "plane" or perhaps evolved to the early Telstar network that was being discussed with the twin tower plans during the early 60's. I fear the truth about 911 will go untold as most of the engineers involved took that to their graves.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: Cauliflower

The area which became World Trade Center Complex was in the 1950-60's known as "radio row" for number
of shops selling cheap radio/TV

David Rockerfeller had proposed the idea which became the World Trade Center and prevailed on the Port Authority
to use powers of eminent domain to buy out all these shops to get the land

Refer to book "CITY IN THE SKY: The Raise and Fall of the World Trade Center" which documents how the World Trade Center came about

Typically truther - take some distorted fact and blow it up into a conspiracy



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: dfnj2015

Then instead of making accusations on a persons mental state, cite how the towers and WTC 7 was like a CD with actual evidence.


I gave you evidence. You choose to ignore it. The building fell at near free-fall speed without resistance. Controlled demolition is the only hypothesis that fits the facts. I saw it fall in the video with my own eye balls. It fell too fast NOT to be controlled demolition.

Now choosing to ignore evidence because you don't like the hypothesis is a psychological problem.


You give potential evidence that is relevant to a theory
Not concluded facts
Get the wording correct.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 01:23 AM
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originally posted by: gunshooter
... and to think there are so many more sheeple on this site than there ever have been before.


Yeah, totally agree. So many people blindly following theories that have no basis on fact. People who believe anything they watch on YouTube and then get all upset when they are challenged.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: firerescue

The information is out there, WTC project involved with MSM feeds via the new Telstar global network.
In the 1950's they had to fly newsreel footage from Europe in P51 mustangs.
In the early 60's I was lucky enough to get an insiders tour of the UN TV studio in NY.
Truth is ultimately up to the beholder.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: paraphi




People who believe anything they watch on YouTube and then get all upset when they are challenged.

I saw it on the internet so it must be true.



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Cauliflower

What does the World Trade Center have to do with satellite communications ?

Site was known as radio row because of the number of cheap radio shop in area



Later, the area became Radio Row. New York City's Radio Row, which existed from 1921 to 1966, was a warehouse district on the Lower West Side in the Financial District. Harry Schneck opened City Radio on Cortlandt Street in 1921, and eventually the area held several blocks of electronics stores, with Cortlandt Street as its central axis. The used radios, war surplus electronics (e.g., ARC-5 radios), junk, and parts often piled so high they would spill out onto the street, attracting collectors and scroungers. According to a business writer, it also was the origin of the electronic component distribution business.
The idea of establishing a World Trade Center in New York City was first proposed in 1943. The New York State Legislature passed a bill authorizing New York Governor Thomas E. Dewey to begin developing plans for the project but the plans were put on hold in 1949. During the late 1940s and 1950s, economic growth in New York City was concentrated in Midtown Manhattan. To help stimulate urban renewal in Lower Manhattan, David Rockefeller suggested that the Port Authority build a World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan.
Plans for the use of eminent domain to remove the shops in Radio Row bounded by Vesey, Church, Liberty, and West Streets began in 1961 when the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey was deciding to build the world's first world trade center. They had two choices: the east side of Lower Manhattan, near the South Street Seaport; and the west side, near the H&M station, Hudson Terminal. Initial plans, made public in 1961, identified a site along the East River for the World Trade Center. As a bi-state agency, the Port Authority required approval for new projects from the governors of both New York and New Jersey. New Jersey Governor Robert B. Meyner objected to New York getting a $335 million project. Toward the end of 1961, negotiations with outgoing New Jersey Governor Meyner reached a stalemate.



Telstar was launched in 1962 - it was in medium earth orbit (perigee about 600 miles, apogee 3600 miles) which meant
needed complex tracking mechanism to keep satellite in view and was only in view for few minutes

It had only one channel to be used for TV broadcast or multiplexed telephone

World Trade Center construction started in 1965 when site was beginning to be cleared



posted on May, 18 2018 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: firerescue

The WTC twin tower designer earned his D. F. A. at a college where my Grandfather taught.
One of his sons now deceased was involved with the Telstar development.
By 1964 they were considering satellite down link feeds into NYC as part of the WTC project.
There were also rumors about the WTC project in some of the local chess clubs 1963.

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