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Trans woman wants 50K because Muslim woman refuses to wax xir's testicles.

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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: snowspirit
As a woman, I cannot even imagine how painful that would be.



I don't even know HOW they could do it.

Woman here, and lets just say I know the procedure for waxing down there.

How would that even be possible? They have to put some good force into the ripping off of the strip or area of wax. So with stretchy skin.....how?? How will that wax come off without pulling the...skin...too far? How far is that skin going to stretch out until the wax will pull off?


Never had it but they go through specialised training. However none of this training and measures to avoid serious injury would apply if someone was post op and had had the scrotum formed into labia. The business are right to not provide a treatment they wouldn't provide/dont hire staff to and it's in the interests of customers not to cause serious injury - I dont understand why she didn't go to a specialised centre or is making a complaint as the owner seems more than happy to provide a service if he had trained staff capable of doing it and isnt making any attempt to discriminate against her and doesn't seem to care less about her gender apart from practicalities of the process.




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 04:56 AM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: snowspirit
As a woman, I cannot even imagine how painful that would be.



I don't even know HOW they could do it.

Woman here, and lets just say I know the procedure for waxing down there.

How would that even be possible? They have to put some good force into the ripping off of the strip or area of wax. So with stretchy skin.....how?? How will that wax come off without pulling the...skin...too far? How far is that skin going to stretch out until the wax will pull off?


Never had it but they go through specialised training. However none of this training and measures to avoid serious injury would apply if someone was post op and had had the scrotum formed into labia. The business are right to not provide a treatment they wouldn't provide/dont hire staff to and it's in the interests of customers not to cause serious injury - I dont understand why she didn't go to a specialised centre or is making a complaint as the owner seems more than happy to provide a service if he had trained staff capable of doing it and isnt making any attempt to discriminate against her and doesn't seem to care less about her gender apart from practicalities of the process.



Doesn't matter, it wasn't done on demand.

That's the precedent.

Sue into oblivion.






posted on May, 17 2018 @ 05:11 AM
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Upon re-reading this, I'm getting the impression that this guy was pissed off on a national level and did this because he wanted a Muslim to do it, there's a lot of animosity going around and like the cake fiasco, this general ideology being bred into our social structure in the West, is breeding hate amongst colonists. I can't say it any other way.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Hmmm...$50,000.00 for NOT getting your balls waxed?

Where is this place again?


That was funny! ha ha.

On another note though, these trans are disgusting people who should have thier own shaving facilities, their own toilets, their own pubs... basically they should go somewhere where they can't complain to normal people about their own problems which they create to cause unrest.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

The only reason the term exists is because someone felt bad there was no term for it.

It is the norm. Face it. If you aren't in it, then you are outside the norm. There is not necessarily anything wrong with that. It just is.

Some of my outside the norm features are hypothetically good. Some of them are bad. And some of them are pretty much neutral.

But this nonsense is what happens when you decide to classify people by their traits rather than just deciding people ought to be individuals.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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When worlds collide!!!!




posted on May, 17 2018 @ 07:22 AM
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originally posted by: mikell
When worlds collide!!!!



The fireworks will be June 21'st. The Collision will extend 24 hours past that, prepare. After that.. Melancholy.


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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 07:44 AM
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Stupid, and foolish



Anyways it's a safety issue as well if they have never done it before and never been trained they could all say they have no training and are worried they would injure the client.
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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: DupontDeux


Anyone noticed, how very little of the negative press transgenders is atually about hem being transgendered, but rather about them trying to (en)force their perspective onto others?




This is the real problem. And it never occurs to trans "advocates" that in their efforts to advocate, they are hurting the transpeople more than anyone. Instead of empowering the transperson to accept themselves for what they are and making the most and the best of their perfectly imperfect self, they are encouraged to live a false premise and demand/expect the impossible from others... and then blame the others when the impossible doesn't happen.

A vicious circle that feeds itself.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Asking people to accept aberrant behavior that includes mutilation of self as normal and being disappointment when they don't.

If you had a group of 12 normal people(men & women) of all nationalities around a campfire and they all had a couple of beers and they felt totally free to express themselves on this topic without reprisals. I think you would have a reflection of how people really feel about all this.
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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: Boadicea

Asking people to accept aberrant behavior that includes mutilation of self as normal...


Wait... just to clarify, does "aberrant behavior" refer to gender dysphoria or waxing one's nether regions? Or both??? I'm going with both



...and being disappointment when they don't.


Exactly -- as if they should expect anything else! Reality is reality, whether we like it or not. One's physical anatomy is one's physical anatomy, whether one likes it or not, and there are certain realities that go along with it -- and believing it ain't so doesn't make it so. If this person were dealing with reality, this person would have understood that there is a difference between waxing female parts and male parts, and would have done the due diligence to find someone who could and would do the job. No humiliation or emotional trauma necessary. Instead, this person has been encouraged to believe that there is no difference. At all. It's just all us bigots that insist on living in the real world who are the problem.

And I'm not a hater... My heart actually goes out to transpeople. As if their physical/mental/emotional issues aren't enough to deal with, they're being used and abused and put in an absolutely impossible situation for political and financial purposes.

But, of course, we all are.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

The term exists because it is accurate and succint for discussion purposes.

Don’t think for a second that I buy this bull crap that using the term “normal” when referring to people who aren’t trans isn’t an attempt to be pejorative towards trans people. It most certainly is.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: projectvxn
Keep coddling this mental illness and you'll get more of it.


Yeah, that’s what I tell myself about conservative gun nuts.


You seem to like to tell yourself a lot of things that aren't so.

Let me know when conservative gun nut in listed in DSM-5.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Trans advocates are indeed empowering the trans person to accept themselves for what they are, instead of forcing them to live lives that aren’t true to themselves.

Trans people are just as diverse as every other group of people. They do not all have the same personalities or expections of life, just like everyone else.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Again, there are many trans people who wouldn’t have had a problem with rescheduling in order to have the service done by a qualified person. Don’t blame the whole trans community or its advocates for one litigious person.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: NorthernLites
I remember signs on business in the past that said we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. It is called a right. And any way maybe the refusal was a blessing!! I can't even imaging the pain of having hair ripped off some ones balls. LOL



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: NorthernLites
Sorry double post. I think the ads on ATS are driving my Mac crazy.
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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Boadicea

Trans advocates are indeed empowering the trans person to accept themselves for what they are...


No. If that were true, then there would be no sex change surgeries and hormone therapies and desperately trying to fool others to "pass" as the opposite gender. If that were true, transpeople would be encouraged to accept and love their bodies as they are, and understand that their physical bits and parts DO NOT DEFINE THEM. "What" they are is determined by their physical reality. "Who" they are is determined by their heart and mind and conscience. One's physical self has absolutely nothing to do with one's inner -- higher -- self. The outside cannot and does not define the inside.


... instead of forcing them to live lives that aren’t true to themselves.


When people cannot accept their reality, in this case, their physical anatomy, and try to be something they are not -- indeed, believe they are something they are not -- it's not being true to themselves. Exactly the opposite.


Trans people are just as diverse as every other group of people. They do not all have the same personalities or expections of life, just like everyone else.


Of course! Because who people are inside is not defined by their bits and parts outside!!!


Again, there are many trans people who wouldn’t have had a problem with rescheduling in order to have the service done by a qualified person. Don’t blame the whole trans community or its advocates for one litigious person.


I very specifically referred to "this" person -- not the entire trans community. But yes, advocates bear some/much of the blame for their part in encouraging to folks to deny their reality in the name of "being true to themselves," and blaming others when reality doesn't match their misguided beliefs.



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv



Then how would you like to be referred as? Surely not “normal”, as I assume you fall outside the norm in one way or another.


Falling a bit out of the norm, is normal behavior.
Drastic changes from what's perceived as normal, is considered "Not normal."



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posted on May, 17 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: NorthernLites

In my community it would be illegal just because you say you are female does not make it so where the law says you can only be serviced by members of same sex. A law put on the books in my area to that effect was put on the books in the 90s to force out of business the brothels in my area operating as massage parlors.




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