Breaking- Russia messed with the election - US Senate committee

Sad to say many were programmed with the crooked Hillary- fake news campaign.

Personally I am guided to WATCH and not feed now and I digress from allowing my energy to be entangled in the political "games", where people are deceived, lied to manipulated and killed in wars.

I guess if President Trump makes America great again FOR ALL AMERICANS in turn making America stronger, then the Russian plan backfires.
But if the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA becomes unstable more or weakened under his watch then the Russians won the game, no question...

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
Super.

Now let's get back to holding the Obama/Clinton/NWO/Globalist criminal network accountable for their crimes against not only the American people but people all around the world.

That's too big of a conspiracy, if that's what you mean. And if you're serious, you would need to include Bush, Rumsfield, Bolton and Rice in there too and probably Powell.

You make it seem like it's a Democrat conspiracy, but if you really look into it you'll see that Bush's policies aligned with Obama and Clinton. Then you need to think that Trump is part of it, because he's good friends with Hillary, she was at his Wedding and Bolton is now in his administration.

So in essences getting rid of the Obama/Clinton/NWO/Globalist criminal network would also include getting rid of Trump and his administration.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
Super.

Now let's get back to holding the Obama/Clinton/NWO/Globalist criminal network accountable for their crimes against not only the American people but people all around the world.

That's too big of a conspiracy, if that's what you mean. And if you're serious, you would need to include Bush, Rumsfield, Bolton and Rice in there too and probably Powell.

You make it seem like it's a Democrat conspiracy, but if you really look into it you'll see that Bush's policies aligned with Obama and Clinton. Then you need to think that Trump is part of it, because he's good friends with Hillary, she was at his Wedding and Bolton is now in his administration.

Include them as well.

Hang em all.

That's what the founders of our country would have done.

originally posted by: SKEPTEK

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
Super.

Now let's get back to holding the Obama/Clinton/NWO/Globalist criminal network accountable for their crimes against not only the American people but people all around the world.

That's too big of a conspiracy, if that's what you mean. And if you're serious, you would need to include Bush, Rumsfield, Bolton and Rice in there too and probably Powell.

You make it seem like it's a Democrat conspiracy, but if you really look into it you'll see that Bush's policies aligned with Obama and Clinton. Then you need to think that Trump is part of it, because he's good friends with Hillary, she was at his Wedding and Bolton is now in his administration.

Include them as well.

Hang em all.

Including Trump then, right? I'm down. All of our recent politicians have been crap.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: amazing
The problem with this is that it let's the Democrats place blame and focus on a minor issue, instead of focusing on why they really lost the last election. And that was a bad candidates and alienating their base. Trump was a better candidate than any of the other republicans and excited the far right base. Case closed.

Totally agree.

Just the very fact that the Russias have done this now has far reaching consequences for how democracy is viewed and this is a key point. Now there is a danger that the narrative will become that the Dems only lost because of the Russian interference when, while yes it may have contributed, there are actually other more important reasons they lost.

The Russians have likely been interfering in our elections in this manner for decades. I'm not saying we should let it continue, it's just strange how it's all of a sudden such a big deal because the outcome wasn't what some people wanted.

Yes and no. Many of the "crazed leftist posts" you appear to be mentioning were basic identity politics fare such as BLM topics. Those same topics were and are widely supported by the Dems. I know. I work with a hundred of them. One Russian Blm event even had Michael Moore show up.

a reply to: underwerks

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13

Sad to say many were programmed with the crooked Hillary- fake news campaign.

Personally I am guided to WATCH and not feed now and I digress from allowing my energy to be entangled in the political "games", where people are deceived, lied to manipulated and killed in wars.

I guess if President Trump makes America great again FOR ALL AMERICANS in turn making America stronger, then the Russian plan backfires.
But if the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA becomes unstable more or weakened under his watch then the Russians won the game, no question...

"I guess if President Trump makes America great again FOR ALL AMERICANS in turn making America stronger, then the Russian plan backfires.
But if the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA becomes unstable more or weakened under his watch then the Russians won the game, no question..."


The Democrats have done far far more to destabilize and weaken the country since the election than the Russians ever could have. Because Trump.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: SKEPTEK

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
Super.

Now let's get back to holding the Obama/Clinton/NWO/Globalist criminal network accountable for their crimes against not only the American people but people all around the world.

That's too big of a conspiracy, if that's what you mean. And if you're serious, you would need to include Bush, Rumsfield, Bolton and Rice in there too and probably Powell.

You make it seem like it's a Democrat conspiracy, but if you really look into it you'll see that Bush's policies aligned with Obama and Clinton. Then you need to think that Trump is part of it, because he's good friends with Hillary, she was at his Wedding and Bolton is now in his administration.

Include them as well.

Hang em all.

Including Trump then, right? I'm down. All of our recent politicians have been crap.

If Trump has been shown to have committed similar crimes against the American people a year and some months after he is out of office, then him as well.

lol anti- Russian nut jobs are hilarious

originally posted by: Mintbisti
lol anti- Russian nut jobs are hilarious

What makes it even funnier is that they love communism but hate mother Russia.

a reply to: RickinVa

I disagree, but you are free to your own opinions.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: amazing
The problem with this is that it let's the Democrats place blame and focus on a minor issue, instead of focusing on why they really lost the last election. And that was a bad candidates and alienating their base. Trump was a better candidate than any of the other republicans and excited the far right base. Case closed.

As a liberal, I agree about this being a deflection from the real reasons.

I tend to lean liberal in a lot of issues, but also conservative in others. I realize there has to be balance. I realize that politically, we have liberal and conservative season and cycles. But I couldn't bring myself to vote for Hillary, or Trump. I focused on real liberals like Jill Stein and real conservatives like the libertarian and constitution party candidates.

It appears as though it's going to be more of the same from the democratic party. Meaning Trump or Pence is a shoe in.

Yes, I used to be a leftist as in real one not dem, but I'm more moderate now. I can understand the critiques of social justice/ identity politics, as well as the concerns about too much or illegal immigration.

I too couldn't stand either candidate. However, because my policy views are more liberal and anti establishment, I voted Jill Stein as she was the most Sanders like. Green Party is also anti war or empire, something the Dems are not.

Russia is all about chaos, and to suggest they were working with Trump, wanted Trump to win etc plays into their big plan to disrupt our elections as much as possible with really no desire who wins as long as they disrupt and create concerns and doubts as much as they can.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Simply repeating the assertion doesn’t make it more true than when they asserted itthe first time.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Russia is all about chaos, and to suggest they were working with Trump, wanted Trump to win etc plays into their big plan to disrupt our elections as much as possible with really no desire who wins as long as they disrupt and create concerns and doubts as much as they can.

Also, Trump in some ways is acting harsher than the Dems against Russian interests, including their allies (and footholds) in the ME Syria and Iran.

Right, I never bought that he was actually antiestablishment. And yes, it would seem the leadership of the GOP is part of this grand corruption. That's why we need to go back to terms like the military industrial complex. It includes both parties.
a reply to: amazing

originally posted by: The GUT
Here's some examples of the "meddling." I'm pretty sure no votes or minds were swayed. I think they liked Bernie more, actually, than the others.

***Edited to remove a bunch of huge pictures.***

It makes sense that they liked Bernie. He's a socialist, and ideologically would be the most closely aligned with them.
The Clintons are basically gangsters, whose main interest is in enriching themselves, and while Hillary may have peddled socialist policies to try to attract Bernie voters, she is most definitely not a socialist.

Also, just as important is the fact much of those posts were after the election. A substantial portion.
a reply to: xenon129

originally posted by: RickinVa
The Democrats have done far far more to destabilize and weaken the country since the election than the Russians ever could have. Because Trump.

This is precisely right. The people doing the most to accomplish Putin's goals right now are the ones continuing to push the Russian collusion myth and looking for any excuse to impeach the President over nonsense.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

How did they interfere?
What, specifically, did they 'do' to interfere.
Who did they focus this interference on?

You almost sound like you are attempting to prove that the only reason Trump got the win is because of Russian interference?

Bet you a billion dollars you can't effective answer any of those 3 questions with actual examples and facts to prove 'interference in the election to help Trump and hurt Hillary'.