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2007 Document On NASA's Website Discusses UFO's In Ancient Times

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posted on May, 16 2018 @ 10:35 AM
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It's interesting that this type of document exists on NASA's website. It validates that the UFO phenomenon has existed throughout mankind's history. The author states, that ancient UFO observers described aerial phenomenon in "familiar subjective terms." Many of the mysterious, aerial objects, that were described by ancient observers, would be their interpretation of natural phenomena...like solar and lunar eclipses, comets, optical phenomena and new stars. However, as the author of this article states, some ancient reports, were describing objects that were similar to today's unexplained, modern UFO sightings.


My working hypothesis will be that most such reports can be explained by conventional scientific ideas and that, among all the reports, only those that defy reasonable interpretation after full analysis can be said to resemble the most puzzling reports made today.


The ancient UFO witnesses, often described these craft using known "military terminology."


The military terminology reflects the most advanced technology known at the time, a tendency found also in modern UFO reports, in which a witness gropes for a familiar technical vocabulary—and perhaps a rationalization—to describe an unaccountable phenomenon. That many reports were made during wartime may partially explain the military terminology


The author then lists a number of ancient sightings, that describe "military objects" that were seen in the skies:

...At Rome in the winter of 218 BC “a spectacle of ships (navium) gleamed in the sky”
...In 217 BC “at Arpi round shields (parmas) were seen in the sky”
...In 212 BC “at Reate a huge stone (saxum) was seen flying about”
...In 173 BC “at Lanuvium a spectacle of a great fleet was said to have been seen in the sky”
...In 154 BC “at Compsa weapons (arma) appeared flying in the sky” (Obsequens 17). The term refers to defensive weapons, especially shields.
...In 104 BC “the people of Ameria and Tuder observed weapons in the sky rushing together from east and west, those from the west being routed.”
...In 100 BC, probably at Rome, “a round shield (clipeus), burning and emitting sparks, ran across the sky from west to east, at sunset.”
...In 43 BC at Rome “a spectacle of defensive and offensive weapons(armorum telorumque species) was seen to rise from the earth to the sky with a clashing noise.”
...Historically, the most famous “sky army” appeared in the spring of ca. AD 65 over Judea. The historian Josephus reports:


On the 21st of the month Artemisium, there appeared a miraculous phenomenon, passing belief. Indeed, what I am about to relate would, I imagine, have been deemed a fable, were it not for the narratives of eyewitnesses and the subsequent calamities which deserved to be so signalized. For, before sunset throughout all parts of the country, chariots were seen in the air and armed battalions hurtling through the clouds and encompassing the cities.


...The first cluster of reports of fiery globes falls during the Second Punic War. Livy reports that in 217 BC “at Capena two moons rose in the daytime … and at Capua a kind of moon fell during a rainstorm.”
...In 168 BC, when L. Aemilius Paullus was waging war against King Perseus of Macedon, “a ball … was the form of a fire that appeared, as large as the moon.”
...A more complicated object made its appearance sometime between 151 and 146 BC:


After the death of King Demetrius of Syria, … a little before the Achaean War, a comet blazed out, not inferior to the sun. At first it was a fiery red disk, 17 emitting a light so bright that it dissipated the night. Then, little by little, its size dwindled and its brightness faded; at last the light died completely.


...Two parallel records of 91 BC preserved by Livy’s extractors Orosius and Obsequens refer to central Italy. Over the city of Rome “about sunrise a ball of fire shone forth from the northern region with a loud noise in the sky.”
...in 74 BC, when a Roman army under L. Licinius Lucullus was about to engage the forces of King Mithridates VI of Pontus. According to Plutarch:


But presently, … with no apparent change of weather, but all on a sudden, the sky burst asunder, and a huge, flame-like body was seen to fall between the two armies. In shape, it was most like a wine-jar (pithōi), and in color, like molten silver. Both sides were astonished at the sight, and separated. This marvel, as they say, occurred in Phrygia, at a place called Otryae. 23 The presence of thousands of witnesses, including Lucullus and Mithridates, vouches for the incident’s occurrence.


...The date was ca. AD 285, in or near the Fayûm in the Egyptian desert. "St. Anthony saw on the desert floor a large silver disk that suddenly vanished like
smoke."
...According to Livy, in 214 BC “at Hadria an altar was seen in the sky; around it were forms of men dressed in shining white.”
...AD 150. On a sunny day, a “beast” like a piece of pottery(ceramos) about 100 feet in size, multicolored on top and shooting out fiery rays, landed in a dust cloud, accompanied by a “maiden” clad in white.

The author concludes, that many ancient observers, were describing known, natural, aerial phenomenon. However, there are also some ancient reports, that also describe mysterious aerial objects that resemble modern day UFO's.


Embedded in the mass of relatively explicable ancient reports, however, is a small set of unexplained (or at least not wholly explained) reports from presumably credible witnesses. If these reports are examined statistically, essential features of what I will, for argument’s sake, call the ancient UFO phenomenon can be extracted:
• shape—discoidal or spheroidal;
• color—silvery, golden or red;
• texture—metallic or, occasionally, glowing or cloudy;
• size—a meter to well over a meter;
• sound—usually none reported;
• type of motion—hovering, erratic or smooth flight, with a rapid
disappearance


NOTE: all highlighted content/quotes comes from the PDF file found on this NASA link:
pubs.giss.nasa.gov...




posted on May, 16 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Great find! Never heard of this 'till now.

Star & flag to take a look at it later.




posted on May, 16 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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It's an academic article reprinted from The Classical Journal and written by Richard Stothers, who worked for NASA. It's been around for some time. Here is a critical review and discussion of the paper. The paper is not the 'official' work of NASA.



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

I'm not aware of the "government" ever disclosing anything even remotely
interesting.. it's always individuals that have in the past worked for the
government or some big company, who have some personal theoretical
agenda to push.

The closest thing ever that approaches "real disclosure" was Condign from
the British MoD, and that mainly supports plasma-like theories, not anything
remotely nuts and bolts.

But people are SO HUNGRY for escapism.. it's like the famous comment
about "God". "If God didn't exist, we'd have to invent him". People want
"God" so badly".

UFOLogy is the same tendency, I would say..

What's your opinion on this sir?

Now mind you... I'm not saying that "God" doesn't exist, nor "UFOs".
But that's a completely different thing, than the all-but manic
or manic urge to invent this stuff even if it doesn't exist.

Kev



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: schuyler

What's your opinion on this sir?


In terms of this particular paper, I'm not impressed either with the paper, its criticism, or its "disclosure." It's pretty innocuous stuff. It presents a bit of ancient history, but if you read the critique, it's not very well done. In terms of "Disclosure" itself, rather than repeat, here's a thread where some of us discussed this issue in depth: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Well that got you a star and a flag on your other post.
I'd never seen it.

Frankly both the ETH and the IDH are dead wrong, but
you made great points and I'll read that other thread
carefully, and perhaps respond with some comments.

Thank you.

I was more asking you about the deep, somewhat
pathological need for god/UFOs and other
existential boundaries.. but perhaps I'm not
communicating well today.. I'm doing about
3 things at once.

My apologies.

Kev



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 01:42 PM
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Stothers clearly specializes in searching classical literature seeking to identify reports possibly engendered by astronomical and similar events, a worthy effort. Here's some of his earlier studies:

Stothers, Richard B. 1977. “Is the Supernova of AD 185 Recorded in Ancient Roman Literature?” Isis 68: 443–7. ——. 1979a. “Ancient Aurorae.” Isis 70: 85–95.

——. 1979b. “Solar Activity Cycle during Classical Antiquity.” Astronomy and Astrophysics 77: 121–7.

——. 1987. “The Roman Fireball of 76 BC.” Observatory 107: 211–13.

——. 2002. “Cloudy and Clear Stratospheres before AD 1000 Inferred from Written Sources.” Journal of Geophysical Research 107 (D23): Art. 4718.

——. 2004. “Ancient and Modern Earthquake Lights in Northwestern Turkey.” Seismological Research Letters 75: 199–204.

Stothers, Richard B. and Michael R. Rampino. 1983. “Volcanic Eruptions in the Mediterranean before AD 630 from Written and Archaeological Sources.” Journal of Geophysical Research 88: 6357–71.



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: JimOberg

What do you personally think of:




——. 2004. “Ancient and Modern Earthquake Lights in Northwestern Turkey.” Seismological Research Letters 75: 199–204.


"Earthquake lights" ?

Science? Almost science? BS?

Kev



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

There's plently of information online that explains these "earthquake lights."


Sometimes called earthquake lightning, the lights can take "many different shapes, forms, and colors," says study coauthor Friedemann Freund, an adjunct professor of physics at San Jose State University and a senior researcher at NASA's Ames Research Center.



"When nature stresses certain rocks, electric charges are activated, as if you switched on a battery in the Earth's crust," he says.



The types of rocks that are particularly given to the phenomenon are basalts and gabbros, which have tiny defects in their crystals. When a seismic wave hits, electrical charges in the rocks may be released.



"The charges can combine and form a kind of plasma-like state, which can travel at very high velocities and burst out at the surface to make electric discharges in the air," Freund added. Those discharges are what make the colorful light shows.



The right conditions for lights exist in less than 0.5 percent of earthquakes worldwide, the scientists estimate, which explains why the phenomena are relatively rare.

news.nationalgeographic.com...



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

You are singing to the choir buddy.

I've been promoting this subject for 5+ years non-stop.

I wanted to see what a more by the book researcher like Jim
would have to say.

Kev



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: JimOberg

What do you personally think of:




——. 2004. “Ancient and Modern Earthquake Lights in Northwestern Turkey.” Seismological Research Letters 75: 199–204.


"Earthquake lights" ?

Science? Almost science? BS?

Kev



Sometimes called earthquake lightning, the lights can take "many different shapes, forms, and colors," says study coauthor Friedemann Freund, an adjunct professor of physics at San Jose State University and a senior researcher at NASA's Ames Research Center.


source



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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Earthquake lights look as legit as 'meteor sounds' that I've been chasing and championing for decades -- a genuine phenomenon that went beyond the edge of known science so was pooh-poohed as 'folklore'. But real.



posted on May, 16 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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josephus even...love that



posted on May, 17 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Sounds like a load of time travellers coming back to try get to Christ's timeline???




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