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‘Real’ Americans are a myth. Don’t you dare buy it.

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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: fatkid
a reply to: introvert

Unless you were not born in America.

I’m not sure you can be a socialist and grow up in America, I think what you mean to say is that you read some books about socialism and it sounds like a good idea.

But unless you are living a socialist lifestyle in a special community, then you are just saying that you think it sounds good.


Precisely my point. Some people cannot fathom the thought that other people can think completely differently and yet still be called American.
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: toms54

@Carcharadon

You sent your post while I was still writing. We seem to be on the same page. I'll step aside because I think you said it better.
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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trump calls people traitors, all the while receiving 500,000,000 dollars from china to build one of his resorts in Malaysia, a few days after he abolishes the embargo on ZTE phones made in china......the military has banned any member from having one of these phones and so has all the three-letter agencies due to spying......screw the Mueller investigation, trump just turned traitor for money, broadcast it publicly through his own tweet, making "bank" helping the Chinese spy on our own military....how slimy, and criminal can you get. for that alone, he should be impeached as soon as possible



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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dble post
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t


Democratic Socialism


For what it is worth, my daughter dragged me along to several Bernie rallies in 2016 and I found him very appealing as a candidate


The sad thing is, a lot of us Trump voters are not too far off from many of the policies and proposals the left comes up with. But, of course TPTB couldn't have folks like you and I agreeing on important issues and actually solving problems


I know Bernie gets a lot of hate on both sides, but I liked him. You guys have a lot of great ideas, and regardless of what the political climate does in this country I hope you continue to come up with those. Much better than candidates running on the same old tired issues every voting cycle, with nothing ever really changing
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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communism came from Acts in the bible for one......

it was stolen and turned evil and is the bloodiest system ever......

mao killed 70 million



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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stalin 30 million

did you know.....

the verse says they divided what they had according to their need ACTS 2 : 44-47

ACTS 4 :32..........sold their possesions and gave as had need.....

but communism kills the infedel when the bible doesn't say to kill.....



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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Most die-hard open-border advocating, Constitution-hating, electoral college eliminating, impeach because 'feelings' Democrats are unAmerican - for exactly those reasons.

As for your article, and your comments regarding same, refer to my comment above - IMO, everyone not supporting their President and his clearly positive and proactive stances on the domestic and international fronts is unAmerican.

The true colours of the DNC, Democrats, liberals became clearer than ever Nov 9th 2016 and since they are a wounded animal, they're extra-dangerous to even approach - best to leave them die through their own arrogance and deceit.

Then again, I'm not a yank, so that is convenient when it comes to the value of my opinion versus the value of your opinion on all-things-yank.

^^^^I'll take 'An opinion Krazysh0t needs to accept and deal with' for $500 thanks Gary.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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Well.

I have a relative who signed the Declaration of Independence, we share the same last name. Mom worked for JFK, her father a 32nd Degree. Dad was in Beirut with the US Marines. Uncle was KiA fighting Nazis. General George McClellan was a relative, so was Gen Mark Clark and Admiral Byrd.



I was raised with their legacy and philosophies in mind. I even had a light association with a very exclusive military organization, bodyguards to George Washington.

After a lifetime of developing these sacred concepts, I don't need to be lectured by inexperienced newcomers about "what it means to be American". I understood what it means LONG before these people crawled out of their ****hole.

The REAL problem is citizens from other countries who have no moral touchstone, and lack the fortitude to fight for their own country, they come here and tell U.S. what to do. I have news for them, the war is over....we won.






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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Most die-hard open-border advocating, Constitution-hating, electoral college eliminating, impeach because 'feelings' Democrats are unAmerican - for exactly those reasons.

As for your article, and your comments regarding same, refer to my comment above - IMO, everyone not supporting their President and his clearly positive and proactive stances on the domestic and international fronts is unAmerican.

The true colours of the DNC, Democrats, liberals became clearer than ever Nov 9th 2016 and since they are a wounded animal, they're extra-dangerous to even approach - best to leave them die through their own arrogance and deceit.

Then again, I'm not a yank, so that is convenient when it comes to the value of my opinion versus the value of your opinion on all-things-yank.

^^^^I'll take 'An opinion Krazysh0t needs to accept and deal with' for $500 thanks Gary.


Well I'm not an American either so I may be wrong...but pretty sure their constitution has something about overthrowing the government should it become tyranical....being loyal to the leader of your country no matter what seems more like some British # than American...



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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Just who does the right think is American? They constantly attack LBGTQ and what rights they are allowed to practice, women and what they can do with their bodies, minorities and how they belittle their daily experience with racism and they also focus on the bad minorities do and never the good...well, until they say something good about Trump.

The right attacks the rights of those Americans on a daily basis. Read the constitution, they have the same rights a white republican does.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:37 PM
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An absolutely clueless specimen.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.





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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: dug88
Well I'm not an American either so I may be wrong...but pretty sure their constitution has something about overthrowing the government should it become tyranical...


It doesn't but many of the Founders writings made it clear that they felt rebellion and the overthrow of tyrants was the most American thing one could undertake.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: dug88
Well I'm not an American either so I may be wrong...but pretty sure their constitution has something about overthrowing the government should it become tyranical...


It doesn't but many of the Founders writings made it clear that they felt rebellion and the overthrow of tyrants was the most American thing one could undertake.


Exactly - so one has to wonder why the low-informationers think that job creation, a growing healthy economy and a vast improvement in international relationships means that Trumps government should be overthrown?

Almost a retarded spastic stance that will surely come back and bite them in their collective asses as soon as their muppet is voted into the WH.

Idiots.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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Our country was founded to bring together and give equal weight to any political idea.


Uncorrect. Our country was founded to ensure freedom of the people from the government. Now if you're talking about free speech, you're again wrong. Free speech doesn't demand we respect stupid leftist ideas that there are 37 genders, everyone is a victim of white men, or that socialism actually would work if we didn't do 'almost socialism'. Now, you can believe those things all you want, but you can't try to silence the opposing arguments that completely destroy those falsehoods.


Not bully people into agreeing with their politics.

Agreed. You don't have to agree with anyone about their politics. But to come in here and say you respect the foundation of america and demand socialism or communism, is anti-american. Guess what, in america, you can be anti-american. Thanks to the constitution that the anti-americans wish to shred.


Read this and see if you can't see how these two are pots calling the kettle black:

Maybe if you actually look into matt schlapp you'll understand why. But more importantly, the coastal elites has little to do with money. It has everything to do with believing you're better than everyone and that flyover country americans are a bunch of rubes. Matt Schlapp grew up in wichita, he's from flyover country. His wife is a first generation immigrant from cuba.


So what makes them more American than someone on the left espousing their ideals?

An american is someone who has american citizenship, so they're not more american than any other american. Their ideas, however, are more in line with what it is to be an american. That's to say, the constitution is our founding principals. They support those founding principals. So their ideas are more american than the left who does not support those founding principals.


what I can say is that opinions and slurs along these lines is doing more to tear us apart as a country than it is to unite us and overcome our political differences


There's no common ground between a socialist/communist and a constitutionalist. Socialism and communism must be defeated, not bargained with.


There is no such thing as being unamerican just because you hold a certain political belief.


Sure there is. If you don't believe in free speech, freedom OF religion, freedom of press, due process, etc. your ideas are unamerican and you should be shamed by others with free speech. Instead what people on the left want to do is bludgeon the opposition with the 1st amendment and claim that it means you have to accept that their ideas are valid (which is what you're trying to do). That's not what the 1st says. You can say what you want and I can say what I want. I get to tell you why you're wrong, why what you're doing flies in the face of the constitution and freedom, and why your ideas should be ostracized from society. See, the constitution applies to the government, not the people. RBG laments that fact. But I don't have to sit and listen to your crazy BS just to 'get along.'
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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I think the premise of the thread, and I may be wrong, is that differing views on the same topic doesn't make someone un-American whether it is a prevailing fact they are disagreeing with or not.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 06:07 PM
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They constantly attack LBGTQ and what rights they are allowed to practice


Show me the mention of marriage in the constitution and I'll give you that point.


women and what they can do with their bodies


Lamenting the death of babies is pretty basic human decency, also the babies rights are violated.


minorities and how they belittle their daily experience with racism and they also focus on the bad minorities do and never the good...well, until they say something good about Trump.


You mean right leaning individuals like this? Link



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t


Na, everybody thinks some aspect of our culture is un-American and that is as american as apple pie.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That is what I gather as well AM



differing views on the same topic doesn't make someone un-American whether it is a prevailing fact they are disagreeing with or not.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: FakeNews9999
Just who does the right think is American? They constantly attack LBGTQ and what rights they are allowed to practice, women and what they can do with their bodies, minorities and how they belittle their daily experience with racism and they also focus on the bad minorities do and never the good...well, until they say something good about Trump.

The right attacks the rights of those Americans on a daily basis. Read the constitution, they have the same rights a white republican does.


Who does this? Its as though you speak of a mystical creature created by time warp overlord. The LBGTQ bunker mentality. Eli is coming! wow! LBGTQ are getting recognized in every way while constitutionalists have got to set back and watch rights constitutional protected get major attack focus.



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