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Topic started on 18-2-2005 @ 02:15 PM by edsinger
This might shock you but in a way this saddens me, liberalism gives me something to dislike and gripe about, so I don't want it to die, but to become irrelevant now that would be ok....



LOSING OUR DELUSIONS.
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I think it was John Kenneth Galbraith, speaking in the early 1960s, the high point of post-New Deal liberalism, who pronounced conservatism dead. Conservatism, he said, was "bookless," a characteristic Galbraithian, which is to say Olympian, verdict. Without books, there are no ideas. And it is true: American conservatism was, at the time, a congeries of cranky prejudices, a closed church with an archaic doctrine proclaimed by spoiled swells. William F. Buckley Jr. comes to mind, and a few others whose names will now resonate with almost nobody. Take as just one instance Russell Kirk, an especially prominent conservative intellectual who, as Clinton Rossiter (himself a moderate conservative) wrote, has "begun to sound like a man born one hundred and fifty years too late and in the wrong country."

At this point in history, it is liberalism upon which such judgments are rendered. And understandably so. It is liberalism that is now bookless and dying. The most penetrating thinker of the old liberalism, the Protestant theologian Reinhold Niebuhr, is virtually unknown in the circles within which he once spoke and listened, perhaps because he held a gloomy view of human nature. However gripping his illuminations, however much they may have been validated by history, liberals have no patience for such pessimism. So who has replaced Niebuhr, the once-commanding tribune to both town and gown? It's as if no one even tries to fill the vacuum. Here and there, of course, a university personage appears to assert a small didactic point and proves it with a vast and intricate academic apparatus. In any case, it is the apparatus that is designed to persuade, not the idea.

Ask yourself: Who is a truly influential liberal mind in our culture? Whose ideas challenge and whose ideals inspire? Whose books and articles are read and passed around? There's no one, really. What's left is the laundry list: the catalogue of programs (some dubious, some not) that Republicans aren't funding, and the blogs, with their daily panic dose about how the Bush administration is ruining the country.


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reply posted on 22-2-2005 @ 10:07 PM by XX_SicSemperTyrannis_XX
The real problem is that many conservatives know the truth about Bush and the Republican party, but they still vote for them! "It's the lesser of two evils..." I hear this malarky all the time. I pose this question: is not the lesser of two evils still evil?

Prior to the 2004 election, I told many fellow conservatives about the Constitution party candidate, Michael Peroutka. Many of them loved his ideas and his stances on the issues, but refused to even consider voting for him. "It's wasting your vote," or "A vote for Michael Peroutka is a vote for Kerry," I would hear. If you call voting for a candidate that truly represents your ideals wasting your vote, then I don't know what to tell you....Also, a vote for Peroutka would not have been a vote for Kerry....a vote for Peroutka would have been....a vote for Peroutka!

To make things worse, the media is the slave of the two-party monopoly....Bardnarik (Libertarian candidate), Peroutka, and Nader were not even allowed to participate in debates......what ever happened to "equal-access?"

Although I am a registered Republican, third party candidates have always appealed to me--Perot, Buchanan, Peroutka, etc.....If think that if more Americans actually found out about third party party candidates and abandoned the myth of the United States having "a two-party system" (its not in the Constitution, it's just sort of a de facto situation), more people would realize that the two major parties aren't all that great.

Sometimes I wonder if we as a nation should have heeded George Washington's warning against political parties and their corrupting influence......

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