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Seattle Steel Workers vs SJWs

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posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:13 PM
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Many Seattle Steel workers are protesting against SJWs after they propose to raise taxes for affordable housing.




The debate over Seattle’s proposed business tax to pay for affordable housing and homeless services took a confrontational turn Thursday when dozens of iron workers crashed a rally by Councilmember Kshama Sawant at the Amazon Spheres.

It was a surreal scene, occurring one day after Amazon announced it was pausing construction planning on a new downtown tower until the City Council votes on the $75 million-a-year tax, a move that Sawant, a supporter of the business head tax, described as “extortionary” tactics.

Sawant is known for her ability to turn out her vocal supporters at council meetings, but on Thursday, the iron workers drowned out Sawant. Every time she tried to speak, the iron workers, who easily outnumbered Sawant’s supporters, shouted again and again, “No head tax, no head tax!”


As to why the head tax is a bad idea



“To reduce the jobs only increases the possibility of additional homelessness,” said Chris McClain, business manager for Iron Workers Local 86.


www.seattletimes.com...

Here's a video of the event:



Notice how in the video the tech workers hold the signs saying "housing for tech workers". That should tell you how they really feel about working class workers.

As for who this Sawant person is:




Kshama Sawant is an American democratic socialist politician and economist, a member of Socialist Alternative who sits on the Seattle City Council


en.wikipedia.org...



I was elected by working people in Seattle to be a voice for raising the minimum wage, for affordable housing, and for taxing the rich to fund public transportation and public education.


www.seattle.gov...

Working people?????!!!!!!. Lol by screwing over the actual workers, she sounds like she only cared for the rich.
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posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

SMH


Why is it that the only way leftists can procure funds is by taking more?


Why not reduce spending in other areas?



Is Seattle's government THAT fiscally irresponsible?



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:21 PM
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Sawant is an avowed socialist on the city council pushing the socialist agenda at every opportunity. The majority of the city council usually side with her. The last mayor converted every downtown traffic lane he could into a bicycle lane. Seattle is a complete mess, politically and physically. It's not my father's Seattle anymore. I think it would be very funny and fitting of Amazon just said "screw it" and moved elsewhere.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Isn't Seattle the city that raised minimum wage to 15/hour?



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

As someone who grew up in a family filled with laborers, I have never understood why anyone who earns their living doing physical labor ever got fooled into supporting the further left policies anyway. It really is voting against your own interests when you consider the party you support advocate regulations that negatively impact most labor union sectors, advocate for immigration and social program policies which increase the pressure on labor (skilled and unskilled) employment markets, push for "sin" taxes that disproportionately impact laborers in their passtimes and habits (beer, smokes, ammo, gambling... all popular things in most labor households), advocates of protected classes of people who are very, very slimly represented in most labor families... it just has never made sense in my lifetime for anyone who actually earns their money via working to vote for these people, let alone pay dues that help get them elected.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Not all of us leftist buy into their policies. A lot of us think they only benefit the Coastal Liberal Elite and not working class leftists.

There is a huge divide between the left wing rich and the left wing working class.

Here in LA, there are some working class leftists that try to take a stand against the rising cost of living.
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posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:30 PM
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sorry double post
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posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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Wtf, I love the iron workers now.




posted on May, 14 2018 @ 07:53 PM
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Seattle is so special....the laborer union only touches shovels and brooms at construction sites........and get 31 on their check and benefits out the wazzo worth 11 an hour anyway.......$42.00 bucks an hour after benefits almost that much

in 2004 I was at $40 an hour for answering an ad for a union company.....they paid me 5 an hour more than the members for some reason.....first be let go 8 months later...but with overtime I was yankin 2700 a week...when I only made 2100 one week , I didn't know if I could make it.....
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editt to add

editt ....if you're ever there....do not miss eating at IVARS ...seafood fast food, many locatios if ya see one do not drive past it
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posted on May, 14 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: starwarsisreal

As someone who grew up in a family filled with laborers, I have never understood why anyone who earns their living doing physical labor ever got fooled into supporting the further left policies anyway. It really is voting against your own interests when you consider the party you support advocate regulations that negatively impact most labor union sectors, advocate for immigration and social program policies which increase the pressure on labor (skilled and unskilled) employment markets, push for "sin" taxes that disproportionately impact laborers in their passtimes and habits (beer, smokes, ammo, gambling... all popular things in most labor households), advocates of protected classes of people who are very, very slimly represented in most labor families... it just has never made sense in my lifetime for anyone who actually earns their money via working to vote for these people, let alone pay dues that help get them elected.


Maybe it's different in America but...conservative politicians are the ones that broke up labour unions, sold off public transportation to private companies, privatized portions of the healthcare system, created laws that benefit landlords and business owners over renters and employee, cut funding to public services and other general things that tend to detriment working class people. At least where I live.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: starwarsisreal

SMH


Why is it that the only way leftists can procure funds is by taking more?


Why not reduce spending in other areas?



Is Seattle's government THAT fiscally irresponsible?


Yes. Fiscally irresponsible = "stupid is as stupid does" - Forrest Gump's mother.
Second line , I dont need no stinkin second line.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 09:02 PM
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originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: starwarsisreal

As someone who grew up in a family filled with laborers, I have never understood why anyone who earns their living doing physical labor ever got fooled into supporting the further left policies anyway. It really is voting against your own interests when you consider the party you support advocate regulations that negatively impact most labor union sectors, advocate for immigration and social program policies which increase the pressure on labor (skilled and unskilled) employment markets, push for "sin" taxes that disproportionately impact laborers in their passtimes and habits (beer, smokes, ammo, gambling... all popular things in most labor households), advocates of protected classes of people who are very, very slimly represented in most labor families... it just has never made sense in my lifetime for anyone who actually earns their money via working to vote for these people, let alone pay dues that help get them elected.


Maybe it's different in America but...conservative politicians are the ones that broke up labour unions, sold off public transportation to private companies, privatized portions of the healthcare system, created laws that benefit landlords and business owners over renters and employee, cut funding to public services and other general things that tend to detriment working class people. At least where I live.






That's pretty much across the western society, we've been sold out to private interests. I'm not sure these people screaming about socialism are paying attention to the reality of this world.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Where does the left-wing-no-job, want the governement to pay for everything fit in?

Do you think it’s a triforcated market?



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Well,,, There's Robin Hood,

and then there is "Robbing The Hood".

SAVVY?
S&F



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

I'm confused. I thought Union Construction Workers are one of the Democratic Party's "Sure Things".

I Love it when politics gets so extreme that Union voters can't even get behind it.

WTG Democrats, or should I say Socialists over in Seattle. Love it when you manage to piss off your own Base.

Wonder which way those Union People will vote next time?????



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: starwarsisreal

I'm confused. I thought Union Construction Workers are one of the Democratic Party's "Sure Things".

I Love it when politics gets so extreme that Union voters can't even get behind it.

WTG Democrats, or should I say Socialists over in Seattle. Love it when you manage to piss off your own Base.

Wonder which way those Union People will vote next time?????



Depends on area but the Union Bosses are in the DNC pocket.... along with the Union dues that the members are forced to pay going to the DNC as well.

Many of the members will not vote for the Dems.



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal


Sawant is also an advocate for Boeing workers to burn down their place of work as a negotiating tactic, instigating riots with destruction of property, and of course my favorite over throwing the elections because King County didn't like the outcome.

Personally she should have been investigated instead of praised by the local idiots that rather get handouts then work for a life. She thinks that it might be criminal for Amazon to leave Seattle, and thinks it's a right to just toss out a tent on a persons property since land belongs to everyone. She is what I would call an "activist politician", where she would rather disrupt the status quo for the sake of popularity, rather then try and provide a sound voice of reason to help those that elected her.

Just an FYI on this situation, Seattle city council has decided on a $275.00 per person head tax on any company that makes more than $20 mil and operates in Seattle. They expect to bring in $71 mil a year in additional revenue to deal with the homeless issue. let's look how how the money will be squanderd:
$30.9 Mil will be going for shelters
$22.4 Mil will be paying for housing assistance
$6.5 mil is for rental assistance
$5.4 mil is for something called "Access to Services"
$5.3 mil is for adminisration costs

So while this money could be going to a good cause, but Seattle isn't really taking the issue of Homelessness very seriously. For one they hired the McKinsey Group to run an evaluation on what is needed to solve the homeless issue, they stated that is will require $350 mil. Now In case some of you don't know who the McKinsey group is, just poke around and see who they have connections with, then go back and look what areas of Washington state voted for a specific Presidental canidate (And yes, I'm going there because it needs to be aired out whats taking place in King County, and Seattle specificly)

If Seattle was serious about the homeless issue, they would be mandating drug rehab as part of homeless recovering programs, mandating harder sentances for drug dealers, provide homeless outreach programs to help people recover from issues that cuased their homelessness to begin with, and enforce property rights for the people that live in Seattle. None of that is happening even thoug they spent $54 mil last year on verifible but vague programs last year. Instead they have created an environment that promotes being homeless, and have encouraged homeless from other areas of the country to come here and pitch a tent (while many will disagree with that last statement, the city of Seattle has not only allowed people from outside the state to pitch a tent here, but some members of city council has highlighted the "welcome nature" of Seattlites rather then pointing out the errors of this behavor)

For the record, the new head tax is the highest in the country, and will only result in businesses leaving the city.



edit on 14-5-2018 by Guyfriday because: Cleaned up post a little, because nobody like a wall of texts



posted on May, 14 2018 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: pavil

I Wonder how Many of those Wise Union Workers Secretly Voted for Trump in 2016 , you just Know that Some did . In 2020 I Bet there Will be A Lot More too......







 
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