It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: Bill1960
a reply to: CoramDeo
I spent close to 30 years dealing with NOTAMS (Notice To Airmen). Basically all they are are temporary instructions that differ from the normal stuff in your publications ie; new patterns, hazards etc. I have NEVER seen one like this:
FDC 8/9596 - NY..AIRSPACE NEW YORK, NEW
YORK..TEMPORARY FLIGHT
RESTRICTIONS.
MAY 23, 2018 LOCAL. PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B)(3), THE
FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE
DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO
DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED,
DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL.
ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST
A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OR ANY SPECIAL
INSTRUCTIONS OR PROCEDURES ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM:
A) THE FAA MAY TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, INCLUDING IMPOSING CIVIL
PENALTIES AND THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF AIRMEN CERTIFICATES;
OR
B) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES,
INCLUDING CHARGES UNDER TITLE 49 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE,
SECTION 46307; OR
C) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE
AIRBORNE AIRCRAFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE AIRCRAFT POSES AN
IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT.
PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL
END PART 1 OF 5. 23 MAY 19:00 2018 UNTIL 24 MAY 00:00 2018. CREATED: 20 MAY
13:09 2018
(Map it)
FDC 8/9596 - NY..AIRSPACE NEW YORK, NEW
YORK..TEMPORARY FLIGHT
REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE
LATERAL LIMITS OF THE NEW YORK CLASS B AIRSPACE SFC-17999FT MSL;
EXCLUDING AN AREA DEFINED AS 3NM RADIUS OF 404400N0732330W
(DPK241005.3) SFC-2000FT MSL; EXCLUDING AN AREA DEFINED AS 3NM
RADIUS OF 410500N0734125W (CMK215012.8) SFC-2000FT MSL
EFFECTIVE 1805231900 UTC (1500 LOCAL 05/23/18) UNTIL 1805240000 UTC
(2000 LOCAL 05/23/18).
WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 7NM RADIUS OF 404609N0735832W
(LGA272005.0) SFC-17999FT MSL; EXCLUDING AN AREA DEFINED AS 2NM
RADIUS OF 405055N0740344W OR THE TEB VOR/DME SFC-2000FT MSL
EFFECTIVE 1805231900 UTC (1500 LOCAL 05/23/18) UNTIL 1805232330 UTC
(1930 LOCAL 05/23/18).
WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 8NM RADIUS OF 403758N0734617W OR THE JFK
VOR/DME SFC-17999FT MSL
EFFECTIVE 1805232245 UTC (1845 LOCAL 05/23/18) UNTIL 1805240000 UTC
(2000 LOCAL 05/23/18).
END PART 2 OF 5. 23 MAY 19:00 2018 UNTIL 24 MAY 00:00 2018. CREATED: 20 MAY
13:09 2018
(Map it)
FDC 8/9596 - NY..AIRSPACE NEW YORK, NEW
YORK..TEMPORARY FLIGHT
EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED
BY ATC IN CONSULTATION WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC
SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC EVENTS
NETWORK (DEN):
A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 7 NMR AND/OR
8 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER
CORE(S), ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: APPROVED LAW
ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING
THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
APPROVED AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY
SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO
CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY
PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD
SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT
OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP),
MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD
SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO
END PART 3 OF 5. 23 MAY 19:00 2018 UNTIL 24 MAY 00:00 2018. CREATED: 20 MAY
13:09 2018
(Map it)
FDC 8/9596 - NY..AIRSPACE NEW YORK, NEW
YORK..TEMPORARY FLIGHT
INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE
ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART
139 AIRPORTS. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS
MUST COORDINATE WITH ATC PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE
AT 516-683-2966 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS.
B. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN THE
7 / 8 NMR AND THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE NY CLASS B
AIRSPACE AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE OUTER
RING(S): ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE OUTER
RING(S) LISTED ABOVE ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT
ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS, AND
WORKLOAD PERMITTING, ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT
OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. ALL AIRCRAFT
MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR FILED VFR FLIGHT PLAN
WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC
CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING
THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL
TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR AND MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY
END PART 4 OF 5. 23 MAY 19:00 2018 UNTIL 24 MAY 00:00 2018. CREATED: 20 MAY
13:09 2018
(Map it)
FDC 8/9596 - NY..AIRSPACE NEW YORK, NEW
YORK..TEMPORARY FLIGHT
RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC.
C. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED
WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE
INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER
OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG
GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP
DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT
OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING
OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE TEST FLIGHTS, MODEL
AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, UNMANNED
AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS), AND UTILITY AND PIPELINE
SURVEY OPERATIONS.
D. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS
CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO
THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION.
END PART 5 OF 5. 23 MAY 19:00 2018 UNTIL 24 MAY 00:00 2018. CREATED: 20 MAY
13:09 2018
(Map it)
It was issued by Boston Center and can found here www.notams.faa.gov...
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
Trump in NY
Not his first time in NYC, but the flight restriction wording is more restrictive than normal.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: CoramDeo
Sometimes I wish I could play along. Last time I did that was during desert shield. No, I did not serve but I felt all full of national pride and stuff. I was like 17.
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
Trump in NY
originally posted by: Bill1960
a reply to: crankyoldman
The NOTAM was issued yesterday 20 May 18. I got a hunch, but it would be very reckless for me to say anything. There's plenty of pilots here who might shed some insight on this. I ran something in the NOTAM and it's best I keep my mouth shut. Not being coy or playing "I got a secret" it's there to see.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
Trump in NY
Not his first time in NYC, but the flight restriction wording is more restrictive than normal.
For good reason too.
😉
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Bill1960
So commercial flight restrictions over NYC May 23-24?
That seems very impractical.
Trump in NY
Trump will be at his former abode, Trump Tower, on Wednesday, May 23, according to city officials.
🔐
originally posted by: tiredoflooking
a reply to: liveandlearn
I really think they are desperately shilling, no proof just my gut feeling!
It is always goog to look at both sides.
Time will tell.
I hope they are fake!
originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: pavil
Well, I have asked this question numerous time and no one will(can) answer
what happens after...
let's pretend that this Q stuff is real, factual, their predictions come true, arrest, "swam draining" etc etc... what happens after?
I don't want any "masters" or rulers