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-@TH3WH17ERABB17 -Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings -PART -s3V3n-

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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: tiredoflooking

I don't know...think people really need to look at this and make a decision.

You always need to look at both sides of an equation.
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Read the entire post. Didn't look like something that can be easily discarded. i admit to having problems from time to time. Todays email was one plus the 2013 post from Trump on the death of person who verified O. It had been floating around twitter all day.

Read the entire post, it shows methods.

I even did an OP some months ago questioning after watching a vid from Defcon1 with Defango admitting to posting some Q.

Yesterday someone called out Tracy Beanz for money she had recieved. She threatened legal action. Poster mentioned a 2nd source and said you can't discuss on an open forum and expect privacy.

Poster on CBTS mentioned Tracy as part of the group.

Those more familiar may have better insight.




posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating


Perth police say they have proved a link between organised child sex abuse and devil worship...





posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: wanderingconfusion
So that whole list of America First items and you pick recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel to pin your claim that President Trump hasn't kept his promises? He has been in office for a little over a year and has had to fight tooth and nail against both Dem and Rino #resist campaigns.

I will tell you something IIB I have lurked on ATS for many years and I have always followed your posts with great fervor. I saw what was happening to this country because of people like you - here at ATS and other places I lurk. I had never voted in my life or felt the patriotic spirit until 2016. I voted for President Trump and have no shame in my game in saying so. I was determined to make my voice count so that HRC wouldn't become president. I loathe her. I listened to every campaign speech, read up on candidate Trump and even went to a rally. I honestly didn't know if candidate Trump would be any different than the others - he isn't perfect in fact who is - but I hoped for the best. So far I have not been disappointed.

The things that are finally being exposed is proof positive - for me - that all the years I have invested in believing these conspiracies wasn't for naught. Patience isn't my strong suit but I keep in mind Rome wasn't built in day. The corruption is so deep it seems like it will take forever to clean it up and bring justice for those who have fallen and those who are still here fighting the good fight. I am shocked that you of all people are not in this thread helping to expose these wrongs. But I digress.


That's too big a list of self serving etc etc etc to even deal with without a whole ordeal of hair splitting and nitpicking.

I appreciate your sentiments.

Here's 'my stuff' that drives me:

We as United Statesian's / Humans have before us critical junctures if We The Little People are to have a future worth talking about:

-Banksters / Power Elites and their money grubbing
-Militarism / Imperialism / MIC
-Surveillance State / Police State
-War On Drugs / Wars of Drugs
-National Debt / Deficits
-Technocrats & Tech Giants and their Transhumanist Skynet BS
-Automation
-Lack of personal sovereignty options
-The "Media At Large" (and their MSM)
-Two Party Politics Subversive BS
-Social Psychology / Social Engineers


And when I look at that list, what has Trump done about any of it?

He had that war going on with CNN etc. Then all year he's let them off the hook by no tweeting four simple words that would annihiliate them:Mass Shooter Contagion Effect.

The rest? Well hes not a Google Silicon Valley etc bootlicker at least, like Obama was.

That spending bill over a trillion dollars added to national debt (mostly for military imperialism) funds self driving cars.

And he attacked the heroin labs in Afghanistan, at least. But every other which way he's flip flopped on his decades long stances on the War On Drugs, putting Sessions the most prohibitionist era style POS imaginable at that helm.

And other than that, I'm just not seeing it. So then I look at this Q thing, and every week "Trump" (same thing right) keeping putting out all caps memos to everyone to TRUST them. And I find that offensive.

We stopped Hillary. And now the task is to keep Trump honest (at heel for US not the power mongers he's showing himself to being a puppet for). Not the other way around. The people that have controlled all the other POTUS, what I'm seeing is roughly what I'd expect if it were any of them (aside from the SJW [Nu-Nazi] snip Hillary would be running amok with about now). Hillary would be conscripting millions right now into her national service brigades. Trump (allegedly) is conscripting the minds of millions right now via Q (for all intensive purposes).

So is it time well spent? I dunno, but when I look I see an awful lot of attention on the Two Party TV drama scene thats been wasting everyones time, and a lot of celebrity tabloid type noise, and focus on the Pope and his scene. We should give a hoot about the Pope about as much as we should the Royal Wedding, as far as I'm concerned (as an United Statesian).
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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:51 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss



A lot they face is actually state & local over-regulations.


How does this rise to the level of POTUS not being America first. You sound like you want a libritarian-isolationist benevolent monarch ruling the country from top to bottom.



But you know one Feds could help with: Gasoline Prices (and the speculators artificially driving up the prices).

Hows the gas prices looking since Trump? Thread I saw just last night had some sobering numbers.


So bring on the socialism to sove the problem. Capitalism is a pesky animal anyway. Rising gasoline prices are a refelction of an improving economic stuation strangled again by ragulations that limit the expansion of refining capacity to meeet the growing demand. POTUS could try and wave EPA and other regs to bring more refineries online, but the green nerds would take it to court and strangle any hope of that happening.

Gasoline prices were far lower a year ago because the economy was basically flat for a solid two years before the last election. Couple a flat economy with ramped up oil output and reduced demand for finished produce and you get low prices.



If you want a good gauge of how the economy is doing, and the correlating demand for refined fuels, take a look at the Baltic dry index. The cost to ship a contianer across the pacific is about 60% higher now than it was in November 2016. Hopefully you can put the rest together.

The increase prices for goods, including refined petroleum due to inflation, is the result of America first policies that are creating demand for goods and services due to higher employment rates and higher individual consumption of goods which is a result of higher individual disposable income (read lower federal tax withholding).

I know you're a smart guy, I'm just not sure why you aren't acknowledging this side of the argument.


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posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Where did you get that quote?

Perth police say they have proved a link between organised child sex abuse and devil worship...


I only have a paid subscription site.

This is interesting considering what just happened in Margret River



posted on May, 20 2018 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You are looking at the situation a little one sided.

In his first year and beyond, Trump has had to fight for every inch.

Building his team by appointments was stymied every way by Congress.

FBI/DOJ stone walling documents.

The list is almost endless.

And yet, we are closer than ever to getting rid of the NWO players ... once and for all.

It takes time, especially with all the road blocks he has to clear first such as Meuller.

Wait a few months and see how it looks then.

You have no idea what it takes to be a President.

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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:02 AM
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a reply to: CoramDeo

Non-Interventionist foreign policy isn't Isolationist. Except in the minds of imperialists / neoliberals / neoconservatives.

What about all this energy independence Trump has rushed in? Why isnt that stoking the increased demand?

When gas prices went off the Richter in 2008, how did that happen when international oil demand hadnt increased (instead it continuously plummeted the entire run up if anything).

And the way it was artificially driven up, in your mind 'someone' putting a stop to it that would have been "socialism"?

Note pointing out the more local levels of 'regulations' that most inhibit local businesses, while asking how Trump himself has helped small businesses, isnt inherently the same thing as saying Chancellor Palpatine should federally take over local regulations across the nation. LOL



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:02 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

I can't believe you people still think Trump is trying to take down the NWO when everything he does indicates he is at best an ignorant stooge and at worst an active collaborator. You need to stop believing in what you WANT him to be and accept what he actually is and does.

Only the social democratic wing of the Dems and the libertarian wing of the Reps could conceivably be trusted to oppose the NWO, and conveniently those people never end up in power.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
And yet, we are closer than ever to getting rid of the NWO players ... once and for all.


Who?

Which banks and banksters? Which technocrats? Which hedge fund and all that guerilla finances sort of operations? Which oligarchs? Which career politicians? Which media moduls? Which "defense" contractors / MIC hatchetmen?

When is the CIA being disbanded?

On what grounds are any of them even being confronted let alone charged with crimes?


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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358

It takes time, especially with all the road blocks he has to clear first such as Meuller.


If he wasnt so busy persuing Neocon foreign policy objectives then well he'd have more time. And that's the main point of what got me all riled to to being a bother today. I have no tolerance or patience for Neocon warmongering BS. And dudes is showing himself to be all in all across the ME. Reversed his campaign posture on NATO. And so on. Its a total effing disaster from my perspective.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:40 AM
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Non-Interventionist foreign policy isn't Isolationist. Except in the minds of imperialists / neoliberals / neoconservatives.


I agree with that statement, except I don't know how you interact in a world commerce market without staking a position. By staking a position you are naturally, intervening, it just a matter of to what level. I'm NOT OK with sticking our war machine in places where it doesn't belong. On the other side, I'm not opposed to rallying ineternational condemantion to cull a dictator to a more reaonable position. That would be the interventionis in me talking.



What about all this energy independence Trump has rushed in? Why isnt that stoking the increased demand?


Again, the bottleneck is refining capacity. Shipping by rail, road, or ship uses Diesel. This competes with petrolium for automobiles. We have a tone of execes capacity to pull oil out of the ground and export it, but that does nothing for us at the pumps.



When gas prices went off the Richter in 2008, how did that happen when international oil demand hadnt increased (instead it continuously plummeted the entire run up if anything).


Two issues there. The big investors needed a place to move their money, and the amount of oil coming onto the market wasn't nearly what it is today. The combination of investors moving their money out of securities and into the comodities market to stem the losses from the banking meltdown, coupled with the ME still being pretty hot and Venuzeula slipping into full blown socialist takeover of the oil industry there (they were a huge exporter) caused the increases in oil prices. Thats a different situation then we have today in that the price spike is due to somewhat artificial increase in cost of raw materials.



And the way it was artificially driven up, in your mind 'someone' putting a stop to it that would have been "socialism"?


Well, someone did try to stop it, and he was a socialist. President Obama released oil from the US Strategic Oil reserves several times to try and bring down prices, but it had little to no effect. Instead, people changed their driving habits, bought smaller cars, dumped the SUVs, and fuel prices evened out as the economy gradually recovered, not as a result of intervention by the government.

Way off topic, I'll walk away after you respond, if you want to respond.




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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: CoramDeo
Two issues there. The big investors needed a place to move their money, and the amount of oil coming onto the market wasn't nearly what it is today. The combination of investors moving their money out of securities and into the comodities market to stem the losses from the banking meltdown, coupled with the ME still being pretty hot and Venuzeula slipping into full blown socialist takeover of the oil industry there (they were a huge exporter) caused the increases in oil prices. Thats a different situation then we have today in that the price spike is due to somewhat artificial increase in cost of raw materials.


That's not how I remember it...
'People' (surely NWO hatchetmen) armed with High Frequency Trading Tech, stock market Speculated the prices right off the charts the way it went (which was absolutely artificial in nature). The timing of it coinciding the Housing Collapse was the perfectly engineered one-two collapse punch that saw some industries permanently meet their end (including my own of 14 years at the time).

Even Bill OReilly covered it for crying out loud!





originally posted by: CoramDeo
Well, someone did try to stop it, and he was a socialist. President Obama released oil from the US Strategic Oil reserves several times to try and bring down prices, but it had little to no effect. Instead, people changed their driving habits, bought smaller cars, dumped the SUVs, and fuel prices evened out as the economy gradually recovered, not as a result of intervention by the government.


More like their economic warfare operation complete, eventually the speculators eased back and things went back to 'normal'.

They more or less, one way or many others, essentially brought even single person here (and elsewhere I suppose) to our knees with that BS.

And hunting down the people that did it is what.......

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posted on May, 21 2018 @ 01:10 AM
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Oh please have George Soros's money confiscated and declared a terrorist.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 01:22 AM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
a reply to: pheonix358

Oh please have George Soros's money confiscated and declared a terrorist.


No doubt. Half the legwork for the case to be able to do it has already been done for Pete's sake (and Jeff's sake too!).



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: liveandlearn
a reply to: tiredoflooking

I don't know...think people really need to look at this and make a decision.

You always need to look at both sides of an equation.
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Read the entire post. Didn't look like something that can be easily discarded. i admit to having problems from time to time. Todays email was one plus the 2013 post from Trump on the death of person who verified O. It had been floating around twitter all day.

Read the entire post, it shows methods.

I even did an OP some months ago questioning after watching a vid from Defcon1 with Defango admitting to posting some Q.

Yesterday someone called out Tracy Beanz for money she had recieved. She threatened legal action. Poster mentioned a 2nd source and said you can't discuss on an open forum and expect privacy.

Poster on CBTS mentioned Tracy as part of the group.

Those more familiar may have better insight.


I just went thru that email. It's horsesh:t. For quite a few reasons, but for starters:


There is a website that shows all of TRUMPS tweets. It’s still on the web now (www.trumptwitterarchive.com...). It used to be able to load tweets right after Trump would post it but a bit faster than it would pop up on Twitter; around 5-15 min faster. It mostly depended on the server but this is how we got lucky and were able to post some of the words off Trumps tweets on the chans before it loaded on twitter.


I've been to that site and the tweets don't get posted quicker to the archive, nor does that even make sense. Not to mention the deltas between Q posts and Trump tweets are way longer than 15 minutes usually. In some cases they've been over 24 hours later.

Besides, that email was dated 5/6. On Saturday, 5/19 Q pulled that password-exposure-stunt-confirmation, which completely voids what these morons are trying to insist. ( That Pamphlet Anon posted as Q recently.)

These guys are desperate. And on the wrong side of history.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 02:22 AM
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CwM, there IS a minimum requirement on the thread openings and that is to have jump links to previous parts of the thread as well as jump links to every tenth page of the previous part of the thread.

If we are to awaken people then we need to make access to the data/debate as easy as possible!



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: RelSciHistItSufi
a reply to: carewemust

CwM, there IS a minimum requirement on the thread openings and that is to have jump links to previous parts of the thread as well as jump links to every tenth page of the previous part of the thread.

If we are to awaken people then we need to make access to the data/debate as easy as possible!


Is this an ATS rule? Show me please.



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 02:50 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Interesting Eise, but... source?



posted on May, 21 2018 @ 02:52 AM
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I think President Trump has 2 big items for Monday.

1. Force the DOJ to cough up the documents requested by Congressional Committees, via an Executive Order.
2. Formally request that the DOJ investigate if Obama Admin used human intelligence to infiltrate his Presidential campaign. (Though I don't know what "formally" consists of. Maybe a legally worded letter, with reasons why?)

Some people in other forums seem to be getting the two mixed up. What do you all think?




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