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originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
When i got my first micro SD card I was amazed that it could hold 2GB of data which means that it can hold ~ 16 billion bits of data, which translates to 16 billion transistors in this storage device the size of a fingernail. Now the amazing part is that if you ever take apart a micro SD card you will find that it is about 95% plastic, 4% wire leads/contacts and about 1% transistors, so the storage area of this device is about the size of a pin head, maybe even smaller. I had a difficult time believing that this was possible about 15 years ago and now there are 512GB micro SD cards which translates to ~1.024 trillion transistors in the same storage space a little smaller than a pin head. Now if they are using VNAND flash memory (48 bit being the industry standard it seems) then this is still 22 billion transistors in this small space which is many magnitudes greater than any other storage medium of 64GB VNAND flash chips that are 18mm^2 chips, I just can't come up with any other tech that is even remotely similar in size comparison nor comparable storage tech that has similar density, which would equate to 10's or even 100's of TB of data on a small USB flash drive given the same applied technology. Why hasn't this been done? Why not run 100 or 100,000 of these tiny pin head size storage area's in parallel/serial configuration and make something like a 10's of PentaByte flash drive? This just hasn't happened and the bus architecture is there to do something like this so why not make a MASSIVE capacity, small footprint storage device? I've calculated atom size and I think this is smaller than equal amounts of hydrogen nuclei in the same space.
I think that these electronics have bypassed the laws of physics and chemical structure and are nothing more than "tokens", "talismans" or "charms" like those collected in MMORPG's where the character doesn't really hold any items, they just have a "token" associated with their character which enables access to the qualities of the token (in this case, data storage). It is basically a shortcut/link to the stored data/ability/etc that is processed through the game/matrix and allows for the data/ability to be carried and accessed without having to carry the data with them.
This is very similar to having access to the internet anywhere in the world with a satellite phone. Having that phone is like the "token" that allows the connection to the data/service of the internet, and everything on it is at their fingertips, but it would be impossible to carry it with them.
originally posted by: frenchfries
Lets assume It's a simulation
It's very interesting that everything in computer science is ever advancing. In fact every new tech that is invented is somehow related to the fact that it keeps humanity within certain physical bounds and makes the population inactive.
More and better microSD cards are just one example of it.
Planes are faster than ever and take you everywhere on earth.
But even better propulsion systems that could take people to other the moon like anti-gravity according to science impossible.
To the stars ? Impossible because of lightspeed.
Better nuclear reactors ? Remember the E-cat , Thorium reactors ?
Free Energy , making people independent of the grid ? well... impossible.
When it comes to expanding the living room of humanity science hasn't advanced that much. But when it comes to tech that makes the population lazy and contempt with their situation there is no limit.
It's almost that the 'simulation' wants us to play in games and forgetting exploring it.
with that in mind I predict that there will be
1exabyte microSD cards within the next 10 years.
But no man on mars venus or the moon within 50 years.
Humanity is allowed to play , but not expand so it seems , it's a Trueman show nothing more.
www.youtube.com...
Humanity is allowed to play , but not expand so it seems , it's a Trueman show nothing more.
originally posted by: Komodo
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
originally posted by: EasternShadow
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
Storage in memory card does not represent life in simulation. At most it counts how many data it can holds. You still need computer's ALU to simulate any characters in MMORPG. But then again, MMORPG's NPCs are standard generic AIs, and not unique human with their own identification.
That isn't what I meant. I'm simply trying to reconcile the data/electron density to the size of the actual data storage device and can't come up with numbers that work with the laws of physics and even things as small as atomic nuclei. If you can't fit the 22 billion of the smallest particles (or electric charges) into the size of the storage device, then how can the device not break the natural laws?
Interesting to note...
Yes, so the question remains to which no one has yet to be able to answer...
"If you can't fit the 22 billion of the smallest particles (or electric charges) into the size of the storage device, then how can the device not break the natural laws?"
I've worked in a engineering dept as a tech....
And I confess, i don't have the answer at all...but i get the jest...
"How can someone squeeze more into the container that won't allow the physical storage for it, without breaking the container? (Natural laws)
originally posted by: rhynouk
originally posted by: frenchfries
Lets assume It's a simulation
It's very interesting that everything in computer science is ever advancing. In fact every new tech that is invented is somehow related to the fact that it keeps humanity within certain physical bounds and makes the population inactive.
More and better microSD cards are just one example of it.
Planes are faster than ever and take you everywhere on earth.
But even better propulsion systems that could take people to other the moon like anti-gravity according to science impossible.
To the stars ? Impossible because of lightspeed.
Better nuclear reactors ? Remember the E-cat , Thorium reactors ?
Free Energy , making people independent of the grid ? well... impossible.
When it comes to expanding the living room of humanity science hasn't advanced that much. But when it comes to tech that makes the population lazy and contempt with their situation there is no limit.
It's almost that the 'simulation' wants us to play in games and forgetting exploring it.
with that in mind I predict that there will be
1exabyte microSD cards within the next 10 years.
But no man on mars venus or the moon within 50 years.
Humanity is allowed to play , but not expand so it seems , it's a Trueman show nothing more.
www.youtube.com...
This is also my understanding. Technology that keeps the mind active and can be used as an everyday thing is good. But when it comes to cures for diseases, space travel, or anything that could help us advance to a higher place is just out of reach.
As long as we are distracted by these new devices, we won't push the boundary any further.
Humanity is allowed to play , but not expand so it seems , it's a Trueman show nothing more.
Never has a saying felt so true.
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
When i got my first micro SD card I was amazed that it could hold 2GB of data which means that it can hold ~ 16 billion bits of data, which translates to 16 billion transistors in this storage device the size of a fingernail. Now the amazing part is that if you ever take apart a micro SD card you will find that it is about 95% plastic, 4% wire leads/contacts and about 1% transistors, so the storage area of this device is about the size of a pin head, maybe even smaller. I had a difficult time believing that this was possible about 15 years ago and now there are 512GB micro SD cards which translates to ~1.024 trillion transistors in the same storage space a little smaller than a pin head. Now if they are using VNAND flash memory (48 bit being the industry standard it seems) then this is still 22 billion transistors in this small space which is many magnitudes greater than any other storage medium of 64GB VNAND flash chips that are 18mm^2 chips, I just can't come up with any other tech that is even remotely similar in size comparison nor comparable storage tech that has similar density, which would equate to 10's or even 100's of TB of data on a small USB flash drive given the same applied technology. Why hasn't this been done? Why not run 100 or 100,000 of these tiny pin head size storage area's in parallel/serial configuration and make something like a 10's of PentaByte flash drive? This just hasn't happened and the bus architecture is there to do something like this so why not make a MASSIVE capacity, small footprint storage device? I've calculated atom size and I think this is smaller than equal amounts of hydrogen nuclei in the same space.
I think that these electronics have bypassed the laws of physics and chemical structure and are nothing more than "tokens", "talismans" or "charms" like those collected in MMORPG's where the character doesn't really hold any items, they just have a "token" associated with their character which enables access to the qualities of the token (in this case, data storage). It is basically a shortcut/link to the stored data/ability/etc that is processed through the game/matrix and allows for the data/ability to be carried and accessed without having to carry the data with them.
This is very similar to having access to the internet anywhere in the world with a satellite phone. Having that phone is like the "token" that allows the connection to the data/service of the internet, and everything on it is at their fingertips, but it would be impossible to carry it with them.
originally posted by: frenchfries
Lets assume It's a simulation
It's very interesting that everything in computer science is ever advancing. In fact every new tech that is invented is somehow related to the fact that it keeps humanity within certain physical bounds and makes the population inactive.
More and better microSD cards are just one example of it.
Planes are faster than ever and take you everywhere on earth.
But even better propulsion systems that could take people to other the moon like anti-gravity according to science impossible.
To the stars ? Impossible because of lightspeed.
Better nuclear reactors ? Remember the E-cat , Thorium reactors ?
Free Energy , making people independent of the grid ? well... impossible.
When it comes to expanding the living room of humanity science hasn't advanced that much. But when it comes to tech that makes the population lazy and contempt with their situation there is no limit.
It's almost that the 'simulation' wants us to play in games and forgetting exploring it.
with that in mind I predict that there will be
1exabyte microSD cards within the next 10 years.
But no man on mars venus or the moon within 50 years.
Humanity is allowed to play , but not expand so it seems , it's a Trueman show nothing more.
www.youtube.com...
we couldn't really be anything other than an avatar
If only there wasnt 1000s of years of esoteric knowledge and logic proving that space doesn't actually exist and that we should be looking inside rather than outside, we may be confused.
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
Question is, how do a roll for a new character?
originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
Question is, how do a roll for a new character?
originally posted by: paraphi
Just because you have no understanding of how SD cards are constructed to store data, you believe it to be made up. I truly worry about some people sometimes.
Personally, I have absolutely no comprehension of the physics behind the theories of the cosmos, but that does not mean the cosmos is not real and above my head, so to speak.