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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: strongfp
In a way yes. But generally when people have a liberal mindset they have common goals. And those common goals can be anything really, the sky is the limit. Hence why pretty much all philosophers and great thinkers are liberal, and usually encompasses the entire population, not just a select few or endorse tribal politics.
The common goal of liberalism is liberty for the individual, or at least it used to be, until the word was co-opted and destroyed in the United States.
What do you mean destroyed in the US? It's funny you mention liberty for the individual.
Isn't that what most Americans want?
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: TheJesuit
Make a list please of exactly which democrats are pushing a communist/socialist narrative. Maybe Bernie, but his is not a democrat, he is an independent.
Point to us all, which democrats are not deeply in bed with the capitlalist system, which democrats have not relieved much of their political money and their personal fortunes from their success and promotion of the capitalist system.
Maybe what you see as communist/socialism is only neo-liberalism. This is just as hard core capitalist as other capitalist forms but with a more liberal social agenda, believing that capitalism needs to dominate any and all cultural changes within all social structures.
originally posted by: TheJesuit
What ever happened to working together to compromise on both sides of the aisle ?instead all I see nowadays is outrageous fake , misleading and predominantly Communist/Socialist narrative being portrayed in the MSM &also being push in the US education system with parents completely unawares!
What happened to the Capitalist ideals that created this Country? I believe we are unaware that the US institutions that held those believe s are under sever and open attack soft targets aka w/o bloodshed attacking the very ideals and traits that espouse a Capitalist mindset.
Your thoughts ATS? Cheers!
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It’s not just Bernie: Socialism is back, and right-wingers have good reason to worry
Why are there suddenly millions of socialists in America?
'The S-word': how young Americans fell in love with socialism
Why Are So Many Young Voters Falling for Old Socialists?
Get Rid of Capitalism? Millennials Are Ready to Talk About It
Yet the liberal cities are by far the largest producers in the United States.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: TheJesuit
Tell me liberals aren't in full attack mode against the US president? I believe liberals that label needs to go and be replaced with socialist because that is what it is just take a good look at Cali for example
so you don't think conservatives destroyed the 4th by bringing in the Patriot act, surveillance, allowing corporate lobby power to destroy competition?
Please. The divide and conquer scheme is working great. Just look at the op.
In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money[3][4] and the state.[5][6][/quote[
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: TheJesuit
Socialism and communism are two different things tho ...
originally posted by: gernblan
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
It’s not just Bernie: Socialism is back, and right-wingers have good reason to worry
Why are there suddenly millions of socialists in America?
'The S-word': how young Americans fell in love with socialism
Why Are So Many Young Voters Falling for Old Socialists?
Get Rid of Capitalism? Millennials Are Ready to Talk About It
Yet the liberal cities are by far the largest producers in the United States.
Producer of what, exactly? More liberals?
originally posted by: gernblan
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: TheJesuit
Make a list please of exactly which democrats are pushing a communist/socialist narrative. Maybe Bernie, but his is not a democrat, he is an independent.
Point to us all, which democrats are not deeply in bed with the capitlalist system, which democrats have not relieved much of their political money and their personal fortunes from their success and promotion of the capitalist system.
Maybe what you see as communist/socialism is only neo-liberalism. This is just as hard core capitalist as other capitalist forms but with a more liberal social agenda, believing that capitalism needs to dominate any and all cultural changes within all social structures.
Nice try. Typical social justice warrior deflection and projection putting the onus on other people to do all the research and work for them. Go educate yourself, there are lots of search engines out there including your favorite sjw converged one, Google.
You can start by looking up Venezuela.
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What ever happened to working together to compromise on both sides of the aisle
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: TheJesuit
Tell me liberals aren't in full attack mode against the US president? I believe liberals that label needs to go and be replaced with socialist because that is what it is just take a good look at Cali for example
so you don't think conservatives destroyed the 4th by bringing in the Patriot act, surveillance, allowing corporate lobby power to destroy competition?
Please. The divide and conquer scheme is working great. Just look at the op.
What has that to do with Socialism ?
Nothing
Communism is a form of government
Socialism is a form of economy
Get it right and move your post to a thread on Communistic ways in the US
so you don't think conservatives destroyed the 4th by bringing in the Patriot act, surveillance, allowing corporate lobby power to destroy competition?
Since when is SOCIALISM aka communism ok for Democrats to push in the USA?
What happened to the Capitalist ideals that created this Country?
No one is pushing that,
The patriots among us stand staunchly opposed to all of those things: fascism, communism, socialism... basically anything that steps on our precious Constitution.