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Honest Question? Is Liberalism Slowly Eroding American Culture?

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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 01:59 PM
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Americanism, if you will, is meant to be a place where a collection of ideas propel us into a better idea where opposing views create a natural sort of checks and balances. Unfortunately for today, that is limited to just two checks and balances.

We need more ideas and perspectives, and less party lines and political agendas. Liberalism/Conservatism isn’t doing anything to destroy America...they are a part of what makes it all so great. The people within are what’s destroying it. Greed, lust, envy, power, money...those are the things that are destroying it from within. IMHO




posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Uh, great OP, but your primary premise is a bit "skewed" and if I were a "Liberal" I would be somewhat insulted by your statement/question: "Is Liberalism.......destroying America"? The people responsible for destroying America call themselves "Liberals" but they are the furthest thing from being "Liberal" in the classical sense of the word. What they really are is "Cultural Marxists"!

Proof they are "Cultural Marxists"?
Being archetypal Liars, they stridently deny they are "Cultural Marxists".

www.theguardian.com...

'Cultural Marxism': a uniting theory for rightwingers who love to play the victim


What is "Cultural Marxism"?
See the following for the best description I've seen in a long time:
dailycaller.com...


Cultural Marxism is the Marxist dialectic fused with Freudian theory and applied to identity and culture. Like all forms of Marxism, it is based upon categorizing people into abstract groups and then creating a narrative of historical oppression between them. The strategy of Marxists is always to cultivate a victimized group and then convince its members that solidarity is required against the oppressors. This creates resentment and hatred and is how Marxist ideologies fulfill their revolutionary objectives.


How are Cultural Marxist ideas promulgated throughout society?


Modern woman, are you unhappy in your marriage? Are the responsibilities of motherhood and the burdens of work getting you down? Patriarchy! Black man, do you feel hard done by? Does it seem like the deck is always stacked against you and you can’t get a break? Racism! Gay man, are you tired of the sneers and microaggressions of straight men? They’re afraid that they’re gay too. That’s why they hate you!



These are the narratives which are paraded endlessly in our education system. They are not natural or accidental. They have been constructed by intellectuals and academics who have had a radical agenda to transform the nation, and benefit themselves in the process.


What are the effects of Cultural Marxism?


The reason race relations in America continue to deteriorate is the cultural Marxist philosophies being taught relentlessly in schools and colleges across the nation.


Will they succeed in destroying America as it was once known? In you're own words:
Cultural Marxists are "determined to tear down America's traditional norms, values, and institutions".

From where I sit, I'd have to say that the Cultural Marxists have done pretty darn well for themselves. They've managed to relegate traditional Christians to the fringe of society; they've destroyed institutions like the Boy Scouts of America. They've warped the Public Education System and have all but shut down traditional "Liberal" education at the College/University level. And therein lies a genuine paradox. All the while self-labeling themselves as "Liberals" they are actually the arch enemy of traditional "Liberalism" of the Jeffersonian type.

With their efforts to change voting mechanisms and to undermine the Electoral College, its quite obvious that the next target of the Cultural Marxists is the "Republic" for which the flag stands. I have little doubt, given enough time that they will succeed.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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It is not eroding. It has eroded. They have turned this country into a third world crap hole. My wife and I notice every time we go out that more and more people look dumber and lower class than the day before. She swears they are all high 24/7 and I think we are well into the Idiocracy. It's headed for a country full of trailer trash.
edit on 11-5-2018 by MRinder because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Uh, great OP, but your primary premise is a bit "skewed" and if I were a "Liberal" I would be somewhat insulted by your statement/question: "Is Liberalism.......destroying America"? The people responsible for destroying America call themselves "Liberals" but they are the furthest thing from being "Liberal" in the classical sense of the word. What they really are is "Cultural Marxists"!

Proof they are "Cultural Marxists"?
Being archetypal Liars, they stridently deny they are "Cultural Marxists".

www.theguardian.com...

'Cultural Marxism': a uniting theory for rightwingers who love to play the victim


What is "Cultural Marxism"?
See the following for the best description I've seen in a long time:
dailycaller.com...


Cultural Marxism is the Marxist dialectic fused with Freudian theory and applied to identity and culture. Like all forms of Marxism, it is based upon categorizing people into abstract groups and then creating a narrative of historical oppression between them. The strategy of Marxists is always to cultivate a victimized group and then convince its members that solidarity is required against the oppressors. This creates resentment and hatred and is how Marxist ideologies fulfill their revolutionary objectives.


How are Cultural Marxist ideas promulgated throughout society?


Modern woman, are you unhappy in your marriage? Are the responsibilities of motherhood and the burdens of work getting you down? Patriarchy! Black man, do you feel hard done by? Does it seem like the deck is always stacked against you and you can’t get a break? Racism! Gay man, are you tired of the sneers and microaggressions of straight men? They’re afraid that they’re gay too. That’s why they hate you!



These are the narratives which are paraded endlessly in our education system. They are not natural or accidental. They have been constructed by intellectuals and academics who have had a radical agenda to transform the nation, and benefit themselves in the process.


What are the effects of Cultural Marxism?


The reason race relations in America continue to deteriorate is the cultural Marxist philosophies being taught relentlessly in schools and colleges across the nation.


Will they succeed in destroying America as it was once known? In you're own words:
Cultural Marxists are "determined to tear down America's traditional norms, values, and institutions".

From where I sit, I'd have to say that the Cultural Marxists have done pretty darn well for themselves. They've managed to relegate traditional Christians to the fringe of society; they've destroyed institutions like the Boy Scouts of America. They've warped the Public Education System and have all but shut down traditional "Liberal" education at the College/University level. And therein lies a genuine paradox. All the while self-labeling themselves as "Liberals" they are actually the arch enemy of traditional "Liberalism" of the Jeffersonian type.

With their efforts to change voting mechanisms and to undermine the Electoral College, its quite obvious that the next target of the Cultural Marxists is the "Republic" for which the flag stands. I have little doubt, given enough time that they will succeed.



Nuff said... proper understanding of true liberalism displayed hats off



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Do American "conservatives" even want traditional norms, though?

From my experience, American conservatives gladly adopt new technologies, like buying new vehicles & becoming experts in high tech car accessories, new guns, household appliances, new apparel made from newer non-traditional fabrics (like synthetic fibers as opposed to wool), etc.

They also gladly work in new non-traditional industries like solar & the IT industry. And gladly shop online instead of strictly shopping the traditional ways (like getting the family down the road to weave their clothes by hand, getting blacksmiths to make their eating utensils by hand, only having food they grew or traded their own crops for, etc).

They also eat supplement their diets with non-"American" foods and drinks. They also use new nontraditional beauty products & nontraditional body enhancement techniques like breast implants, lip implants, liposuction, etc. And some "conservative tough guys" even use newly development steroids and newly developed hair loss treatments.

And of course, there's the widespread "conservative" adoption of modern health care and prescription drugs. And there's the widespread "conservative" adoption of modern entertainment, like following modern movies & TV shows instead of traditional plays; modern music over "classical music"; modern stereo systems instead of old fashioned self playing pianos, etc. And of course, there's also the adoption of new forms of slang, modern dances, modern hairstyles, etc.

Ironically, it's some of the more "liberal" youth's countercultures that have started adopting some of the old school fashions and technologies, like steampunk, gothics, and some hipsters who literally go out of their way to reincorporate obscure traditional clothes, utensils, technology, and who knows what else into their public lives. And ironically, many of today's "conservatives" actually mock those countercultures for being weird, obnoxious, etc (imagine that, someone who claims to "cling to past norms" mocking someone else for literally clinging to past norms).

And I always hear people whine about how supposedly back in the day, people used to be nicer, more respectful, and blah. Well if they really believe that, then why do so many modern "conservatives" abandon those idealist manners and instead embrace "just telling it like it is", "not being PC", "trolling", and other euphemisms for being as rude as they want? If they really believe that the traditional way of dealing with people was with good manners and with class, then being "conservative" would mean that they would cling to those manners and "classy" behaviors, regardless of the time period.

In other words, I don't really think most American "conservatives" are conservative at all. If they were, then they'd still be embracing slavery, eugenics, bans on interracial dating, forced racial segregation, massacres of the Natives, etc since those were also traditional American norms. The closest groups of Americans that I've seen who are actually "conservative" are Amish & Mennonite communities, and they still adopt some modern practices from time to time. But most American conservatives would be high tech, innovation loving, constantly updating liberals to them.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:55 PM
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it's not liberalism causing this pc nonsense, if it was, then conservatives wouldn't be doing the same thing. i'm pretty certain america was infiltrated by soviets/russians multiple times, creating subtle cracks here and there from every side, but the most recent ones have been most effective and it's becoming dangerous if you look close enough.

i honestly believe a civil war is looming and it'll be between nationalists, communists and a union of traditional conservatives and liberals, we're only at the beginning stages of an ideological war, within the next 20 years we need to eliminate the nationalists and communists/socialists and their every influence, we need to show conviction of our democratic republican ideals and quit compromising.

despite how things look, the cold war hasn't ended and Russia is still our opponent, social subversion is their specialty and it's only just become obvious who is behind this, i'd mention china but they are a bit direct about things and prefer to show off, they aren't dangerous in the way Russia is.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

You can only change if you want to change.



The premise that liberalism is eroding American culture is highly dependent on willing accomplices.

If the majority of Americans are willing, then is the culture destroyed or is it just changing?



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I would say sadly conservatism is pretty dead in government.

Doesn't it mean less government and less spending?

Apparently it means waiving your arms around in the limelight talking about liberals.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: luthier

Values, ethics, morals, standards are dead in government.

And pretty much in our culture also.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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I do feel radical liberalism poses a bigger threat to the sanctity of our democratic republic. They are no more persuasive than their counterparts on the right. But it's their numbers. For every white nationalist there are 10 white hating virtue signalling oppression Olympic participants who feel It's completely acceptable to oppose different opinions and ideologies with violence.

Most large cities are liberal breeding grounds. It appears rather than have empathy for anyone outside their little bubble they would rather just impose their will on anyone who doesn't agree with them. This attack on the electoral college is a testament to this.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:11 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I disagree about the culture but I live in one of the least populace states in the country.

I know a lot of independent minded people, good liberals, good conservatives, but people here don't scream about politics they go fishing, hunting, backpacking, skiing, kayaking, etc...

People need to get out and get a life.

Says the guy online right now.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

I would say your comment is a great example of us against them.

Can you honestly say Alabama is fantanstic? Those liberal cities account for about half of the gdp.

Do conservatives limit government? Or do they want to make laws about gays and bathrooms?

We all have out hypocrisy and don't hold the politicians accountable.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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IMO, "culture" only exists in the mind. Whatever you think this culture or that culture is, that's what it is. To you. The more people talk about it and try to define it and start arguing about it, the more obvious it is that nobody has a damn clue what the hell is going on. LOL

I have pretty much the same POV on every single issue. Humanity is a freak of nature. You can't fix that with anything. LOL



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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Yes.

Destroying America is their goal. They absolutely hate nationalism.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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I would think that it's necessary to define what you believe "America's traditional norms, values, and institutions" to be before we can discuss whether or not Liberals are tearing it down. Otherwise, this will end up being an echo chamber. But if you actually want a REAL discussion about it, give us a definition to go off of.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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Yes.

The lefrist liberals have been instituting these views for the longest time, the 90s in my opinion.

I suppose the goal was acceptance for all, however, you create weak and spineless individuals, completely incompatible with the real world.

Tough love, where its always at.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
Yes.

The lefrist liberals have been instituting these views for the longest time, the 90s in my opinion.

I suppose the goal was acceptance for all, however, you create weak and spineless individuals, completely incompatible with the real world.

Tough love, where its always at.


I would say it came from baby boomer wanting their kids to have a good life.

People aren't working in factories they are software engineers etc..

It's just the nature of having easier lives. But if it makes you feel good to blame liberals you may not realize the problem of conservatives.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 03:55 PM
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Can you honestly say Alabama is fantanstic? Those liberal cities account for about half of the gdp.


I think I know what you were trying to say. I also agree with a lot of what you typed, especially the part about "govt limiting" conservatives who actually love creating new laws against things that they don't accept. But I have to ask: You beefin' with Alabama?

Alabama's diverse as (bleep). They have some terrible people and crappy government policies, but they also have some amazing people, fine women, warm weather, and good stuff in general (including virtually an entire industry related to the Civil Rights Movement and its landmarks). Depending on what you spend your time on, Alabama can indeed be fantastic.

No matter how much I've been told to boycott 'Bama, I can't because every time I've been there I've been treated well. And if we're being honest, every state has its pros and cons. And that includes the "liberal" states like Massachusetts, which have cities like Boston that are still known for their racism; New York, whose NYPD are notorious for targeting Muslims and ethnic minorities; etc. GDP isn't a factor for everyone when it comes to how crappy or fantastic a state is.



posted on May, 11 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Guilty As Charged . The Only Recourse now is to Remove its Access to a Degree of Political Power that causes such Disruptions and Opposition to the Norm in our Present Day Constitutional Belief System .
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posted on May, 11 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

My beef is a conservative state that requires the feds to prop the budget up so badly.

A state that can't raise revenue to pay for itself.

That doesn't seem very conservative.


Maybe the labels are destroying themselves.




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