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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Shamrock6
As ardent a supporter as I am of the 2nd, I also understand that some people shouldn’t have firearms. Mental defect? Absolutely. But that’s where you and I differ: I think the government should be required to prove, and I mean prove in the legal sense, that a person has a mental deficiency. It shouldn’t be the citizen’s burden to prove they’re not mentally deficient. I also don’t think violent felons should have access to firearms.
Basically, I just want something like mandatory psychological evaluations and/or mental health testing every 3 to 6 months for gun ownership. The exact details can be up for debate.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Your draconian proposal sounds like an Orwellian nightmare, that every legal/future legal gun owner should stand up to.
originally posted by: Erno86
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Erno86
Mental evaluations should be provided by the state, i.e., paid for by all of our taxes.
That’s my opinion, anyway.
That's on the slippery road to a police state, my friend.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: Erno86
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Erno86
Mental evaluations should be provided by the state, i.e., paid for by all of our taxes.
That’s my opinion, anyway.
That's on the slippery road to a police state, my friend.
Uh huh. Just let crazy people keep on gettin’ guns. Cuz that’s workin’ out great for us.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Erno86
1. Do you have stats to show that "the average gun owner" can't afford a psychological evaluation every 6 months?
2. I don't know about you, but it's the law that we have to pay car insurance once a month or a lump sum every 6 months where I stay. I don't see why people who want to own guns can't also pay the equivalent to keep the rest of us safe. It can even be merged into gun owner's insurance, gun liability insurance, or even into a gun owner's license at a reduced rate.
3. Life insurance companies and health insurance companies pay far more money on settlements for gun related injuries & deaths. Families pay far more money for funerals and/or gun related hospital bills. And tax payers pay far more money for policing, prosecuting, and imprisoning people for gun related crimes. So I'm not buying the argument that money is only an issue when it's inconvenient for your argument.
ETA:
4. Maybe the NRA or other lobbyists can get free or reduced rate mental health testing included into a health care bill. I personally think that health insurance should be giving yearly mental health checks anyway.
Do you have stats to show that "the average gun owner" can't afford a psychological evaluation every 6 months?
If the vast majority of gun violence is committed by illegally obtained guns, what good does insurance do?