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his actions could be construed as intentionally undermining the US government's stance on the matter.
This could easily meet the legal definition of the crime. This is why I emphasized "Approaching" treason
Did he aid a hostile foreign power? Give them aid or comfort? It is "treason" if he did those things.
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: Sookiechacha
Iran ratted out Kerry.
He met with Iran's foreign minister in New York, specifically to try to keep the Iran deal in place.
[U) Due to the lack of prosecutions un- der t he Logan Act and despite the various apparent violations since its passage, Con- gress should evaluate the la1.-v's utility and consider repealing it
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JBurns
What proof is there that Kerry was in the Middle East trying to undermine US policy? I thought the Iran deal was a matter of US policy.
Perhaps, like Mike Flynn did with Russia regarding newly imposed sanctions, Kerry was trying to smooth feathers, and ask Iran for patience with Trump's threats, and consider ahead of time, what they (Iran) might want to bring to the table under NEW negotiations.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
someone who is no longer employed, and not being recruited for employment...that is called "treason".
LOL, "TREASON"...Drama Queen much!
No, It's called lobbying.
You have no idea what Kerry did or said. He certainly had no leverage to make any promises for the Trump administration like Flynn did.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JBurns
Citation needed, please. Because, if you're talking about Netenyahu's dramatic presentation of Iran lies, that was proven to be out of date, information from before the deal was made.
Pretty much everyone, including Isreali intelligence and Trump's own generals and cabinet members, before he fired them, confirms that Iran has kept to their side of the deal, everyone except Trump and (Iraqi WMDs) Bolton!
18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
From where I stand he was conspiring. What other effort could be made to Iran to salvage a deal we were going to stop honoring?
As the Boston Globe reported last week, former secretary of state John Kerry has been engaged in secret talks with Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif, as the two have “strategized” about how to preserve the nuclear deal the pair helped negotiate. If true — and Kerry has not only not denied this activity but has reportedly discussed it with members of Congress and others whom he hopes will assist him in thwarting the Trump administration’s apparent intent to either junk or revise the pact — this crosses an important line between legitimate advocacy and illegitimate efforts to sabotage the actions of a sitting U.S. government.
The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized persons with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States. The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position.
originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: JBurns
Someone needs to explain to Kerry and the world that he does not represent us in any official capacity! He has no authority and certainly has no clue into how the Trump administration will be handling these matters.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns
Kerry is still SoS and Obama is still president.
At least that is what the MSM and the DNC still believe.