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Russians paid Trump's Lawyer?? Turns Out Its Just More Fake News.

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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Triggered? Not at all. I'm just not one to suffer insults from #posting half-wits.




posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Maybe you could us e a masseuse.




posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian




Who are you again? I can't think of a thing you've ever said that was worth remembering. You're a non-player character, an extra, background chatter that can be, should be and is typically disregarded. There's never going to be some point after you're gone where somebody says to another poster, "Hey, do you Remember that guy notsure? Whatever happened to him? I miss his informative, thoughtful posts." As for your slanderous drivel, I'll put my percentages against you, anyone posting on ATS, Q, the Trump admin and just about anyone else you'd care to mention. I'm consistently ahead of the curve and my predictions are on point. Go back to eating paint chips or whatever it is you do when you're not posting one-line garbage to impress the morons in the peanut gallery you irrelevant #posting clown.

wow

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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: knoxie


Russia-linked company that hired Michael Cohen registered alt-right websites during election.


That's normal for investment firms right? MSN missed carlcuck.com and a bunch of others which look to be domains he registered with the intention of selling military-themed apparel.

Particularly relevant to this thread, he also registered:

renovamedia.com
renova-usm.com
renovausm.com



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Of course you'd post an RT video!



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian




How dare you assume to know what motivates him? Aren't you the one who has admonished a number of us on several occasions for making assumptions about the motivations of Dear Leader?

How is it that following the election, Cohen immediately set about peddling influence to the highest bidder but it's apparently Avenatti who is the more ethically challenged of the two.

If Avenatti was representing a porn star with whom Obama had cheated on his wife and he'd dropped the dime on similar influence peddling by Obama's personal lawyer and longtime business associate, he'd be hoisted high upon Trumpkin shoulders as a whistleblowing "saint and a hero" to the whole of Trumpdom.

That's not the case and because of your own political motivations, you'd much rather sling mud at Avenatti than acknowledge that Trump's man Cohen is a slimy influence peddling bastard.


You're so "ahead of the curve" and "on point" on this whole Russian ploy, that you've routinely dismissed with the other side of the story with your bulverism.

Now that you're Russian ploy is nearly finished, that your Russiaphobia and CIA bootlicking proven to be the fevered dreams of brain cooked within a tin-foil hat, you've reduced yourself to rooting out "influence peddling" in one instance where it resulted in absolutely nothing. No, nothing you've ever said has come true, and your double standards are as soft as chewing gum.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 01:25 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian


Is there any other kind?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

These are the post the mud pit was made for. Not sure if well get a rebuttal though.


...posting on ATS, Q,....


Since you mentioned it, I've often wondered why you and a few other members haven't waded into the Q threads at all. Most of the skeptics have been rather weak and trollish so far. Are we just too nuts?

Or maybe....

You're a closet Qster



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
I love how all of you are so capable of compartmentalizing all this to avoid acknowledging that Michael Cohen was at the very least, telling these companies that he could provide access to Trump and taking millions of dollars for it.

As you can see from what I just posted, it's pretty obvious that they're doing a half ass job of trying to put distance between Columbus Nova and Vekselberg. Which is part of an attempt to make this influence peddling simply about Russia so that you can argue that there's no connection from Columbus Nova to Vekselberg, therefore no ties to Russia, therefore "nothing to see here!"

And not only are you wrong, it's got nothing to do with the $100k a month Novartis was paying him or that fact that he solicited them with promises of providing access to Dear Leader in exchange for that money.

Try as you might, you can't dance around that.

And this bit about attacking Avenatti is just weak. None of this hinges of Avenatti's credibility at this point folks, all of the companies, including Columbus Nova, have confirmed the payments to Cohen.

Which brings me to another point about CN — they're the only ones so full of # that they're trying to pass of some nonsense about hiring Cohen after the election to consult on real estate investments.

Oh and just in case it wasn't clear before, while CN is an entity owned by Vekselberg's cousin, Vekselberg's Renova Group is in fact the largest "client" of Columbus Nova which up until this #storm was openly calling itself "the US investment vehicle for Renova Group" and which was listed and detailed on the Renova Group's website as part of their corporate structure, as I posted earlier.


How dare he! Doesn't he know he needs to be Secretary of State first?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


You're so "ahead of the curve" and "on point" on this whole Russian ploy, that you've routinely dismissed with the other side of the story with your bulverism.


The other side of what story? And my bulverism? Lmao. You have exactly two modes. The first of these is to loiter, taking sanctimonious potshots from the sidelines. You prattle pretentiously about "virtue signaling," assumptions and "hasty generalizations." Speaking of which, fully a quarter of your posts are simply you accusing people of logical fallacies like an overbearing middle school assistant debate coach.

You don't actually worry about making arguments because then you might risk being proven wrong. Instead, you needle and nitpick. How lacking in self-awareness are you that you don't see the hypocrisy in accusing me of bulverism? This post of your is in fact, a perfect example of your bulverism, you insufferable hypocrite.


Now that you're Russian ploy is nearly finished, that your Russiaphobia and CIA bootlicking proven to be the fevered dreams of brain cooked within a tin-foil hat


What Russia ploy are you talking about? Please, be specific when you're slandering me. Exactly what have I said in regards to Russia that has been "proven to be the fevered dreams of blah blah blah" ?


you've reduced yourself to rooting out "influence peddling" in one instance where it resulted in absolutely nothing.


I had been planning to post tedious and uninspired mini-quasi-treatises to impress wingnuts with my mad thesaurus skills but you've already got the overbearing pseudointellectual sesquipedalian gig. That's your second mode of posting by the way.


No, nothing you've ever said has come true


Oh boy. Do I really need to list things I've been right about? Here's a few off the top of my head: McFarlane would withdraw, Clovis would withdraw, Flynn would cut a deal, Gates would flip, Kim DotCom would not cough up any evidence related to Seth Rich, the Rod Wheeler bull# about Seth Rich would turn out to be false.

And I've definitely been ahead of the curve on a number of topics, not least of which Cambridge Analytica and Manafort.


and your double standards are as soft as chewing gum.


You're soft as chewing gum. That's why you avoid actual arguments in favor of garbage like this.
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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: FauxMulder


Since you mentioned it, I've often wondered why you and a few other members haven't waded into the Q threads at all. Most of the skeptics have been rather weak and trollish so far. Are we just too nuts?


The material is too nuts for me. People cherry pick two-three words, a phrase here or there, sometimes just a number or a date, out of a sea of cryptic gobbledygook. They look for ways to make things fit to confirm what they want to believe.

To me, it's something like the interplay of Nostradamus's deliberately vague quatrains with the minds of people who believe they forecast future events.

Why would a person with this world altering insider knowledge from behind the curtain be so cryptic or choose 4chan as an outlet to inform the masses? It doesn't make sense on its face.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: theantediluvian

Lol nothing you write turns out to be true..

You have lost all credibility..


Who are you again? I can't think of a thing you've ever said that was worth remembering. You're a non-player character, an extra, background chatter that can be, should be and is typically disregarded.

There's never going to be some point after you're gone where somebody says to another poster, "Hey, do you Remember that guy notsure? Whatever happened to him? I miss his informative, thoughtful posts."

As for your slanderous drivel, I'll put my percentages against you, anyone posting on ATS, Q, the Trump admin and just about anyone else you'd care to mention. I'm consistently ahead of the curve and my predictions are on point.

Go back to eating paint chips or whatever it is you do when you're not posting one-line garbage to impress the morons in the peanut gallery you irrelevant #posting clown.


Yeah but how is that impeachment thing going?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: theantediluvian

Lol nothing you write turns out to be true..

You have lost all credibility..


Who are you again? I can't think of a thing you've ever said that was worth remembering. You're a non-player character, an extra, background chatter that can be, should be and is typically disregarded.

There's never going to be some point after you're gone where somebody says to another poster, "Hey, do you Remember that guy notsure? Whatever happened to him? I miss his informative, thoughtful posts."

As for your slanderous drivel, I'll put my percentages against you, anyone posting on ATS, Q, the Trump admin and just about anyone else you'd care to mention. I'm consistently ahead of the curve and my predictions are on point.

Go back to eating paint chips or whatever it is you do when you're not posting one-line garbage to impress the morons in the peanut gallery you irrelevant #posting clown.


Yeah but how is that impeachment thing going?


I have been around this site a long time . (longer than you)

I could not care any less ...



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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What impeachment thing? I've said repeatedly since the beginning that I haven't seen any evidence that Donald Trump was knowingly coordinating with the Russians and that I suspected he hadn't. I've never said that Donald Trump was going to be impeached. I've repeatedly said that he likely would not be and that if by some chance he was to be impeached, it would be a futile exercise because it would take 67 votes in the Senate to remove him.

That's never going to happen.

What I have said since the jump was that if anyone was coordinating with the Russians, it would be Manafort. This was all many months before it was revealed that he was in fact reaching out to Deripaska.

Impeachment really isn't something I think about too much. The result of an impeachment would be President Pence which hardly seems like an improvement.

Does that clear things up? If you're looking for somebody to say, "how's that impeachment thing going?" to, you've got the wrong guy.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

its gotta suck to just keep losing for 3 years.


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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

When the people who made the deposits spoke up it kind of sealed the deal.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: notsure1

What impeachment thing? I've said repeatedly since the beginning that I haven't seen any evidence that Donald Trump was knowingly coordinating with the Russians and that I suspected he hadn't. I've never said that Donald Trump was going to be impeached. I've repeatedly said that he likely would not be and that if by some chance he was to be impeached, it would be a futile exercise because it would take 67 votes in the Senate to remove him.

That's never going to happen.

What I have said since the jump was that if anyone was coordinating with the Russians, it would be Manafort. This was all many months before it was revealed that he was in fact reaching out to Deripaska.

Impeachment really isn't something I think about too much. The result of an impeachment would be President Pence which hardly seems like an improvement.

Does that clear things up? If you're looking for somebody to say, "how's that impeachment thing going?" to, you've got the wrong guy.


So ypu dont think Trump did anything wrong? and this whole investigation is bs?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: theantediluvian

its gotta suck to just keep losing for 3 years.



You are correct Donald must feel terrible apart from getting a few South Korean / American spies back from North Korea he has done little but divide his country more than ever and allow the far right a voice

his long ties to Russian money will be his downfall



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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if anyone was coordinating with the Russians, it would be Manafort.

... and not just Manafort !

Lemme see now,
wasn't there a Jared K. story about "setting up private phone lines to russia" ?
Larry Flynn, what did he forget to mention about what exactly ?

These two were minnows

Manafort was reaching out to Diaprovsky
trying to wipe out a 13m$ debt
... to a dodgy russian dude



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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 05:40 PM
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a reply to: FauxMulder




Mueller already passed the investigation of Cohen off. So we're to believe this asshat of a lawyer found something that the supposed impeccable former FBI head and his team of anti Trumpers couldn't find


Mueller already asked AT&T and that drug company about these deposits last December.
The Russian he grabbed in a New York airport three months ago.
Also Mueller passed off a particular case involving Michael Cohen's business practices. That case went to the New York branch. That does not mean Michael Cohen isn't still being investigated by Mueller.



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