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Russians paid Trump's Lawyer?? Turns Out Its Just More Fake News.

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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: DBCowboy

Seems to be what they've been doing, steadily, on CNN. Start a rumour, discuss everyone's opinions on it, for days, saying what if (a lot)...... until people think it's real news.

Watching the psychology going on, on that channel, is fascinating.
Also disturbing....


Lets be honest...the entire Avenatti/msm narrative yesterday, was released and propagated in order to give the MSM something Trump-Negative' with which to saturate the newswaves...OTHER THAN the 'Trump-Positive news story narrative: 'TRUMP FREES NK HOSTAGES'.




posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

I can see the route you are taking it as far as an unregistered lobbyist etc. but that is not what the lawyer was trying to say nor is it what is insinuated by the media coverage.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
I love how all of you are so capable of compartmentalizing all this to avoid acknowledging that Michael Cohen was at the very least, telling these companies that he could provide access to Trump and taking millions of dollars for it.

As you can see from what I just posted, it's pretty obvious that they're doing a half ass job of trying to put distance between Columbus Nova and Vekselberg. Which is part of an attempt to make this influence peddling simply about Russia so that you can argue that there's no connection from Columbus Nova to Vekselberg, therefore no ties to Russia, therefore "nothing to see here!"

And not only are you wrong, it's got nothing to do with the $100k a month Novartis was paying him or that fact that he solicited them with promises of providing access to Dear Leader in exchange for that money.

Try as you might, you can't dance around that.

And this bit about attacking Avenatti is just weak. None of this hinges of Avenatti's credibility at this point folks, all of the companies, including Columbus Nova, have confirmed the payments to Cohen.

Which brings me to another point about CN — they're the only ones so full of # that they're trying to pass of some nonsense about hiring Cohen after the election to consult on real estate investments.

Oh and just in case it wasn't clear before, while CN is an entity owned by Vekselberg's cousin, Vekselberg's Renova Group is in fact the largest "client" of Columbus Nova which up until this #storm was openly calling itself "the US investment vehicle for Renova Group" and which was listed and detailed on the Renova Group's website as part of their corporate structure, as I posted earlier.


In reference to your first paragraph, do you have access to testimony, a recording, or anything that proves your allegation? Or is this yet another “assumption” reported as fact with zero actual evidence?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder


Your boy Mueller already looked at it and said Yea, nothing here, pass it on to NY AG.


I've already made this point myself. That's what I'm trying to convey here. This isn't about anything to do with the election interference. This is about good ol fashioned influence peddling.


I'm sure I could connect you or just about anyone else to a Russian with close ties to President Putin.


I'm sure you couldn't.

Vekselberg isn't part of Putin's brat pack like Deripaska (he's I think a bit too old school for that) but he is the 4th richest man in Russia, he does have well established Kremlin ties (including heading up business initiatives for the Kremlin, not least of which the Skolkovo technopark — Vekselberg is co-chairman of the Skolkovo Foundation Council and President of the Skolkovo Foundation), he is in fact sanctioned by the US government as of last month.

He is in fact the principal owner and President of Renova Group.

Renova Group did in fact list the company operated by his cousin as part of its corporate structure. His cousin, CEO of Columbus Nova, did in fact claim in his corporate bio that Columbus Nova is the US investment vehicle of Renova Group, and even now, Columbus Nova has no choice but to acknowledge that Renova Group is their largest/primary "client."

It is also a fact that Columbus Nova paid Michael Cohen $500k, into an account used to collect similarly large payments from Novartis, AT&T and Korea Aerospace, and in the same time frame as the others, suggesting it was for a similar purpose.

You're a smart guy. You know that it's not exactly unreasonable to take these facts and do what The Hill did in their title and call it Cohen taking $500k from a company with ties to Putin.

I don't know that I'd call Avenatti a loser. So far he's managed to eat Cohen's lunch on the public stage. As I've said more than a couple times in the last few weeks, Avenatti has a lot in common with Trump in terms of style. He's got a thing for showmanship, he's adept at using the media and he's got a combative style on the public stage.

Assuming that there's no serious legal consequences to putting out the information that he did, it's a definite win. Now the world knows that Cohen rushed out to sell access to Trump to the highest bidder and that one of Trump's absolute closest associates, his personal attorney and an exec at Trump Org, is a scummy ass swamp monster.

And Avenatti has rocketed his profile.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: snowspirit
a reply to: DBCowboy

Seems to be what they've been doing, steadily, on CNN. Start a rumour, discuss everyone's opinions on it, for days, saying what if (a lot)...... until people think it's real news.

Watching the psychology going on, on that channel, is fascinating.
Also disturbing....


OTHER THAN the 'Trump-Positive news story narrative: 'TRUMP FREES NK HOSTAGES'.





posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: FauxMulder

Don’t you dare speak ill of Avenatti. The man is a saint and a hero to the entire resistance.

Just kidding, he’s an unethical, politically-motivated hack, that fools have run to hide behind.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT


nah, it couldn't possibly be the pay-to-play stink, something trump said he wouldn't do and accused Hillary of. it couldn't be that.

also, the msn has covered the returning hostages, bless your heart.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Lab4Us

Statements have been made to at least two news outlets from people with knowledge from inside Novartis.

Novartis official: Michael Cohen was 'promising access' after Trump election


Cohen "contacted us after the new administration was in place," the official said. "He was promising access to the new administration." Novartis then signed a one-year, $1.2 million contract with Cohen.


Trump’s lawyer pitched himself as a fixer to Novartis and got paid $1.2 million


He reached out to us,” the Novartis employee said, providing STAT with the company’s version of events as it scrambles to contain the fallout from being entangled in the investigations surrounding Trump and his inner circle, including Cohen. “With a new administration coming in, basically, all the traditional contacts disappeared and they were all new players. We were trying to find an inroad into the administration. Cohen promised access to not just Trump, but also the circle around him. It was almost as if we were hiring him as a lobbyist.”



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: FauxMulder


I'm sure you couldn't.


Haven't you heard of the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon? I surely could!


You know that it's not exactly unreasonable to take these facts and do what The Hill did in their title and call it Cohen taking $500k from a company with ties to Putin.


Sure but the ponit is to insinuate Russian Collusion.


I don't know that I'd call Avenatti a loser. So far he's managed to eat Cohen's lunch on the public stage. As I've said more than a couple times in the last few weeks, Avenatti has a lot in common with Trump in terms of style. He's got a thing for showmanship, he's adept at using the media and he's got a combative style on the public stage.


I'd say in this case it's more the media using him. He may up his profile for a bit but when Stormy peters out like all the other controversies thus far, he'll still owe the government 5 million in back taxes.


Assuming that there's no serious legal consequences to putting out the information that he did, it's a definite win. Now the world knows that Cohen rushed out to sell access to Trump to the highest bidder and that one of Trump's absolute closest associates, his personal attorney and an exec at Trump Org, is a scummy ass swamp monster.


Sure Cohen and probably a couple hundred other people who know Trump. They may get paid but I seriously doubt many would be able to deliver on their promises.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

FOr me, im all to happy to see Cohen pay for his crimes.

But i won't bother to believe much from Avenatti until I know who is paying him.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian




Vekselberg isn't part of Putin's brat pack like Deripaska (he's I think a bit too old school for that) but he is the 4th richest man in Russia, he does have well established Kremlin ties (including heading up business initiatives for the Kremlin, not least of which the Skolkovo technopark — Vekselberg is co-chairman of the Skolkovo Foundation Council and President of the Skolkovo Foundation), he is in fact sanctioned by the US government as of last month.


Is that the same Skolkovo that then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton rounded up American support for?

Hillary’s Secret Kremlin Ties are Unravelling



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Yep, that's the one.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Lol nothing you write turns out to be true..

You have lost all credibility..



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Lab4Us

Statements have been made to at least two news outlets from people with knowledge from inside Novartis.

Novartis official: Michael Cohen was 'promising access' after Trump election


Cohen "contacted us after the new administration was in place," the official said. "He was promising access to the new administration." Novartis then signed a one-year, $1.2 million contract with Cohen.


Trump’s lawyer pitched himself as a fixer to Novartis and got paid $1.2 million


He reached out to us,” the Novartis employee said, providing STAT with the company’s version of events as it scrambles to contain the fallout from being entangled in the investigations surrounding Trump and his inner circle, including Cohen. “With a new administration coming in, basically, all the traditional contacts disappeared and they were all new players. We were trying to find an inroad into the administration. Cohen promised access to not just Trump, but also the circle around him. It was almost as if we were hiring him as a lobbyist.”


People with knowledge.

You mean anonymous sources? LOL They make you believe anything dont they..



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope


Just kidding, he’s an unethical, politically-motivated hack, that fools have run to hide behind.


How dare you assume to know what motivates him? Aren't you the one who has admonished a number of us on several occasions for making assumptions about the motivations of Dear Leader?

How is it that following the election, Cohen immediately set about peddling influence to the highest bidder but it's apparently Avenatti who is the more ethically challenged of the two.

If Avenatti was representing a porn star with whom Obama had cheated on his wife and he'd dropped the dime on similar influence peddling by Obama's personal lawyer and longtime business associate, he'd be hoisted high upon Trumpkin shoulders as a whistleblowing "saint and a hero" to the whole of Trumpdom.

That's not the case and because of your own political motivations, you'd much rather sling mud at Avenatti than acknowledge that Trump's man Cohen is a slimy influence peddling bastard.
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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 11:06 AM
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Russia-linked company that hired Michael Cohen registered alt-right websites during election.


It is unclear if any of these websites were launched or ever hosted content.

These sites include Alt-right.co, Alternate-right.com, Alternate-rt.com, Alt-rite.com, and other similar combinations, which were all registered in the two days following a speech given by then candidate Hillary Clinton in August 2016 in which she excoriated the far-right movement known for its extremist, racist, anti-Semitic and sexist viewpoints. The sites are not currently operational.

A spokesman for the company told The Washington Post that Frederick Intrater was not acting on behalf of Columbus Nova when he registered the sites, even though he had used his company email address and listed the organization. The spokesman said that Columbus Nova was not aware that the sites had been registered before Wednesday.



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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
And not only are you wrong, it's got nothing to do with the $100k a month Novartis was paying him or that fact that he solicited them with promises of providing access to Dear Leader in exchange for that money.


Okay. So what did all of that buy them exactly?

Any uranium interests?




posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: theantediluvian

Lol nothing you write turns out to be true..

You have lost all credibility..


Who are you again? I can't think of a thing you've ever said that was worth remembering. You're a non-player character, an extra, background chatter that can be, should be and is typically disregarded.

There's never going to be some point after you're gone where somebody says to another poster, "Hey, do you Remember that guy notsure? Whatever happened to him? I miss his informative, thoughtful posts."

As for your slanderous drivel, I'll put my percentages against you, anyone posting on ATS, Q, the Trump admin and just about anyone else you'd care to mention. I'm consistently ahead of the curve and my predictions are on point.

Go back to eating paint chips or whatever it is you do when you're not posting one-line garbage to impress the morons in the peanut gallery you irrelevant #posting clown.
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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Russia-linked company that hired Michael Cohen registered alt-right websites during election.


It is unclear if any of these websites were launched or ever hosted content.

These sites include Alt-right.co, Alternate-right.com, Alternate-rt.com, Alt-rite.com, and other similar combinations, which were all registered in the two days following a speech given by then candidate Hillary Clinton in August 2016 in which she excoriated the far-right movement known for its extremist, racist, anti-Semitic and sexist viewpoints. The sites are not currently operational.

A spokesman for the company told The Washington Post that Frederick Intrater was not acting on behalf of Columbus Nova when he registered the sites, even though he had used his company email address and listed the organization. The spokesman said that Columbus Nova was not aware that the sites had been registered before Wednesday.



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Whew!!!

Talk about people being addicted to and brainwashed by Russian false news websites.

Beam me up...Scotty



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: theantediluvian

Lol nothing you write turns out to be true..

You have lost all credibility..


Who are you again? I can't think of a thing you've ever said that was worth remembering. You're a non-player character, an extra, background chatter that can be, should be and is typically disregarded.

There's never going to be some point after you're gone where somebody says to another poster, "Hey, Do you Remember that guy notsure? Whatever happened to him? I miss his informative, thoughtful posts."

As for your slanderous drivel, I'll put my percentages against you, anyone posting ATS, Q, the Trump admin and just about anyone else you'd care to mention. I'm consistently ahead of the curve and my predictions are on point.

Go back to eating paint chips or whatever it is you do when you're not posting one-line garbage to impress the morons in the peanut gallery you irrelevant clown.











 
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