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The issue with atheism

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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
the offense, it's offensive

haven't you got anything better to do than being an atheist?


why is it offensive?




posted on May, 15 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
the offense, it's offensive

haven't you got anything better to do than being an atheist?


Lol, you debate like a child, and your entire OP has been destroyed by reasoned logic.
Carry on though, it's funny, I imagine you rocking in your chair with crazed eyes, desperate to find some decent argument to save face.
Hilarious actually



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 02:01 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Nope. Once again, you conclude wrong. Just like when you said:


n theory you're only an atheist if you don't use the word God at all

I was demonstrating that I can, in fact, use the word 'God' however I choose and still not believe it is a real thing.

Just like I can read stories about unicorns and dragons and devils. i can also draw them and make up funny comics with them.

Doesn't mean I believe in them.

Do you believe in EVERYTHING you speak of? Is every you say a literal truth? Or have you not heard of rhetoric, linguistic devices, storytelling, or make believe? Well, I suspect the latter, if you believe in God or deities.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
the offense, it's offensive

haven't you got anything better to do than being an atheist?

I find your lack of belief in Cthulhu HIGHLY offensive.

Haven't you got anything better to do than being an aCthulhuist?



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Woodcarver

Explaining that molecules are inanimate?
That's your answer? Everyone knows that.
It does nothing to explain your thinking
against the only observable evidence that
life only comes from life. Did you just
abandon the scientific method? Why not
just say life doesn't come only from
life because fire engines? Quit dodging the
question?
Yes, but those inanimate molecules combine to form living beings. Therefore, life is made up of inanimate molecules.


What you're trying to pass off here is
ridiculous and you know it. Stop trying to
save yourself. You believe inanimate molecules
by some miracle just start breathing. And you
mock and hate what others believe with no
difference. You're a total hypocrite.
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

I can and won't excuse the biasness of some Christians. I am sure we could both think of better words but whatever

I know atheists who have some fantastic stories and beliefs, not necessarily based on reason logic or science

People are people, who would have thought atheism had churches


I never said atheism has churches, but I suppose it's possible.

I am interested in these fantastic stories and beliefs you have heard from atheists. That was a serious inquiry. I'm guessing if an atheist is spiritual, they aren't really an atheist. Although I do allow the right for people to be against Christianity yet still believe in other spiritual things, maybe some atheists are prone to this, but they aren't pure atheists, which is okay, but I just wanted to point that out.

There is also the possibility that the spiritual world is much different, or even much more expansive than Christians think. There are many different religions out there, and they can't all be correct unless there was a different afterlife for each one, and different Gods for each one. Which is entirely possible.

I find it hard to believe that Christians have an actual monopoly on religion, I think they THINK they do, but really this is just a way to control their followers and keep them from having different views than the ones they are told to have. Hindus allow for other religions to exist, they just add those Gods to their pantheon. Confusionists follow a code that is based on reasonable social interactions without divinity.

What about Buddhism? The following quotes were found on Google with the search terms "What do Buddhists think of other religions?" and "What do Christians think of other religions?" These are the top search results, and they are telling.

For Buddhism:


Just as there are billions of people on this planet, there are also billions of different dispositions and inclinations. From the Buddhist point of view, a wide choice of religions is needed to suit the varied needs of different people. Buddhism recognizes that all religions share the same aim of working for the well-being of mankind. With this common basis, Buddhists and Christians have established exchange programs to learn from one another in the spirit of mutual cooperation and respect.


Buddhist View of Other Religions

This sounds like a reasonable point of view to me.

What about Christians view of other religions?


Do Christians believe that followers of other religions are doomed?
Some do, but others don't.



Christianity consists of people who disagree diametrically on many subjects. Some take the Bible so literally that they include in God's plan only a small minority of the world's population. Other Christians, however, view Christ in a larger perspective and emphasize inclusion rather than exclusion. God is a God of love, and those who live in love know God.


Explore Faith

So here we have a good point. Not all Christians are as messed-up as others. I prefer to dislike the ones that take the Bible literally and think that the followers of other religions are doomed to Hell. First of all, that doesn't scare me, as I think they are making it all up. I guess I find them annoying because their beliefs can allow them to act in a hostile manner towards others, even going so far as to kill people who have different beliefs in some etreme cases, and in other, more mainstream cases, by denying others the right to follow their own beliefs, such as gays and lesbians, or Muslims, or whomever else. This is no different than what extremist Muslims do. I also think that all of the people engaging in these activities and beliefs are actually a disgrace in God's eyes if He does exist.

My bone to pick is not towards all Christians or all conservatives, but to the closed-minded ones who focus more on hate than love.

It is true, everyone can be biased, and most people are in one way or another. That is a great point.

I think one problem Christians have that not all religions have, is that they cannot allow themselves to see other people's perspectives. These days, it comes in many forms, once again, one example is their attempt to force their views onto gays and lesbians instead of allowing gays and lesbians the freedom to pursue their own lives. Gays and lesbians don't force Christians to be gay, so why should Christians force them to be straight by punishing them for their beliefs?
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
save yourself. You believe inanimate molecules
by some miracle just start breathing. And you
mock and hate what others believe with no
difference. You're a total hypocrite.

The problem Randyvs, is you're stupid. Just plain stupid. You simply lack the ability to learn and educate yourself.

For example,
THIS gives background into the science behind how life can come from otherwise inorganic materials, and propose an idea on how life on earth started, all without a made up God.

But of course, you won't read them will you? You simply lack the capacity for understanding.

Instead, you'll bleat on about 'atheist' hate or some other non-fact and wrap yourself up in your delusional little world.

Keep living under your rock and scream at those metal flying beasts in the sky, Randyvs. Let the world of science and human advancement pass you by


Happy trails, sweetie!
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: noonebutme

Seems pretty stupid to waste your time
calling people stupid. Hypocrisy at it's best.
Got you"re goat tho.


Sounds like hate

Name caller


Nothing you write matters because you're
wrong. How can those who have no soul
believe in God? To you I'm just stupid. But
it's obvious you are the one who lacks.
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: EasternShadow



Man were made by dust. But it was God who breath life into the living body.


Yes, that's the missing ingredient.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: noonebutme



The problem Randyvs, is you're stupid. Just plain stupid. You simply lack the ability to learn and educate yourself.


You see, regardless of what you think, you are ugly person, insulting because someoen doesn't believe as you do and you can't handle it, intolerant is all you are

What do science do that is good for you? If all you do is use it to insult people? You may work in science but doesn't mean you respect it or love it or use it for what it is for. Right now you are not and i don't care you think i'm ignorant foolish girl, i head that before and got slapped before too because i don't sit and listen, i'll never bend. I know better than to let myself be put down for an old guy full of hate or whatever

I like science and i plan to study neurobiology. I will never let this way of looking at science lead the way because i don't want to be like that, always looking for someone that can be put down becasue i think i know better

Kick yourself in your bollocks for letting yourself grow to be like this


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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:16 PM
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originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: noonebutme

So that means you're just the same as any believer.

No it doesn't. I don't believe in a God, for Christ's sake.

God damnit don't you get it?!


(see what I'm doing there?
)
A belief in the non-existence in God is still a belief. You have no way to prove that God does not exist.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: Out6of9Balance

So which God did I trigger? I'm no atheist, for I'm an idiot.

Can't be Japanese Buddhism, they believe kneeling on a pillow and being infront of a wall for hours is enlightening...without an idol too.

At least I have to try harder with athiests to get them to cast a stone.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:36 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: noonebutme

So that means you're just the same as any believer.

No it doesn't. I don't believe in a God, for Christ's sake.

God damnit don't you get it?!


(see what I'm doing there?
)
A belief in the non-existence in God is still a belief. You have no way to prove that God does not exist.


It's a Lack of Belief.

If you can prove God - - I'll accept there is a God.

Until then I Lack Belief there is a God.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:42 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I can't prove to you that I exist. And I'm not
coming to your house to prove it.

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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:43 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: noonebutme

So that means you're just the same as any believer.

No it doesn't. I don't believe in a God, for Christ's sake.

God damnit don't you get it?!


(see what I'm doing there?
)
A belief in the non-existence in God is still a belief. You have no way to prove that God does not exist.



No, disbelief is not a belief that something doesn't exist regardless of how you dress it up in semantics. As for the burden of proof, in science you do not prove a negative ( lack of belief in anything, deities or otherwise). The onus lies on the believer to support their claim.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:50 PM
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originally posted by: Specimen
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

More like any theory that will fit that they can see.

Btw, what is your concern with Atheism? There are other schools of thought that disregard deism, and more or less go for Providence?

What is your overall concern that athiest don't need to beleive any further then their only two eyes can see? Is it eternal fire...or not getting any where in the relationship with God after the third date?

It matters when there's a battle to remove prayer from public schools, or remove the Ten Commandments from a public space. Atheists and Progressives have been making a point to remove any reference to God or Christianity because it irritates them to see it. So it is not necessarily a flat lack of belief in God, it is an ardent need to remove God and religion from every place they may encounter it, even on Christmas cards(you know its politically correct to say Happy Holidays). It has gotten to be a major obsession, where they are censoring educational books. There is a Progressive agenda, whether you care to admit it or not, or whether you as an atheist actually sign on to such measures. It goes far beyond just removal of God from every aspect of society. By the way, it was part of the Communist agenda at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution to attach the churches. Communist = hatred of Churches. Marxism in general is a kind of hatred of God and the family unit, which Karl Marx declared the bourgeois family to be a deterrent to the kind of socialist utopia he dreamed of.
So I say to you, I could care less if you are atheist and if you don't believe in God or gods. But if you start shutting down churches in the name of some moral relativity(aka secular humanism) you may run into a roadblock. Start putting people in gulags over religion, then it becomes a massive problem for society.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 08:53 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

Tell us what you do believe as an atheist?
Put something on the table or atheism is
for cowards.

Nothing but cowards mocking what
others believe.

I'm a believer because I have the guts to
to confront your narrow minded bigotry.

Or maybe I'm just stupid


Oh noz Burn the Bibles! They're evil!
How pathetic is that?
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posted on May, 15 2018 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I was more or less asking for his but sure...
Well, wouldn't that be a matter of freedom of speech and expression as well as trying to separate church from state affairs which can be an entirely different matter? No different then Christians wanting to kick Islam and Sharia law from government?

I understand Karl did not like religious theology and institutions, and reacted with a cynical view, that would be comparative to atheism and it form of skeptism. And yet Marx was heavily influenced by Artistole, who studied under deists?



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
It matters when there's a battle to remove prayer from public schools, or remove the Ten Commandments from a public space. Atheists and Progressives have been making a point to remove any reference to God or Christianity because it irritates them to see it. So it is not necessarily a flat lack of belief in God, it is an ardent need to remove God and religion from every place they may encounter it, even on Christmas cards(you know its politically correct to say Happy Holidays). It has gotten to be a major obsession, where they are censoring educational books. There is a Progressive agenda, whether you care to admit it or not, or whether you as an atheist actually sign on to such measures. It goes far beyond just removal of God from every aspect of society. By the way, it was part of the Communist agenda at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution to attach the churches. Communist = hatred of Churches. Marxism in general is a kind of hatred of God and the family unit, which Karl Marx declared the bourgeois family to be a deterrent to the kind of socialist utopia he dreamed of.
So I say to you, I could care less if you are atheist and if you don't believe in God or gods. But if you start shutting down churches in the name of some moral relativity(aka secular humanism) you may run into a roadblock. Start putting people in gulags over religion, then it becomes a massive problem for society.

If no one believe in God, then it will be the end of this world ( The Big Crunch Cosmos? Sun going supernova? Milky Ways been sucked into Darkhole? ). At least the prophecies are finally fulfilled, and the new cosmos cycle begin, leaving us in the antique of CMB.

I think it will be a lagendary phenomenon.



posted on May, 15 2018 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: peter vlar

I'll say it for you.

You believe in man.

And nothing is more worthy of ridicule.



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