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posted on May, 10 2018 @ 03:47 AM
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Would this fall under the ""Libertarians"" belief of "States Rights"? You hear these so-called Libertarians talk about the need for individual State Rights, and when it happens it seems to hurt their feelings?




posted on May, 10 2018 @ 04:42 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 07:51 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: DBCowboy

How is this any different than the NRA saying you can't bring guns to the Mike Pence speech?

Or how a Nazi HOA can make a zillion crazy demands?


Were the NRA members living and paying rent at the convention center?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 07:52 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
Would this fall under the ""Libertarians"" belief of "States Rights"? You hear these so-called Libertarians talk about the need for individual State Rights, and when it happens it seems to hurt their feelings?

State's rights can't infringe on constitutional rights.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?


Just spit-ballin' here, but the inability to keep and bear arms might be an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms.





posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.


Property owners can't revoke your inalienable rights in your residence. If they want some one as a non paying guest they can.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:35 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?


Just spit-ballin' here, but the inability to keep and bear arms might be an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms.




Which they can do....just not on their property.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.


Property owners can't revoke your inalienable rights in your residence.


Your residence. Their property.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?

It doesn't. That's why the NRA is fine. This is not a simple private development, this is someone's residence where the owners can't interfere with the rights of renters.

Here's a simple thought experiment, a guest is in your store and you want them gone immediately, can you make them leave? A renter is in your private property, can you make them immediately leave?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?


Just spit-ballin' here, but the inability to keep and bear arms might be an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms.



You can keep an bear them all you want, just not on said property.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

So now, the armed looters know where to go to get free stuff.

Choice!



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.


Property owners can't revoke your inalienable rights in your residence.


Your residence. Their property.

Yes, where they can't infringe on your rights. Is it legal to say I refuse to rent to black people? Their property right ....



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:41 AM
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originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: XAnarchistX

I have the same approach to this as the bakers not wanting to bake a cake for a gay couple, the couple should have found a new baker, in this case don't rent a home from this company.


You don't have a right to cake, you do have a 2nd amendment right.

How does not being allowed to possess, store, or carry a firearm in a private development infringe on the right to keep and bear arms?


Just spit-ballin' here, but the inability to keep and bear arms might be an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms.



You can keep an bear them all you want, just not on said property.

Black people can go where they want, just not to my apartment complex.
edit on 10-5-2018 by OccamsRazor04 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Hey, did you know that you aren't allowed to keep firearms in your barracks room or even on base housing while in the military? All personal firearms have to be kept in your unit's armory if you live on base.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.


Property owners can't revoke your inalienable rights in your residence.


Your residence. Their property.

Yes, where they can't infringe on your rights. Is it legal to say I refuse to rent to black people? Their property right ....


You're equating human rights with gun rights? Which are not infringed on. Have all the guns you want. Just don't keep them on their property.



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Hey did you know yes you can?



posted on May, 10 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Exactly paying to rent.

You do not own the property. You have to abide by the rules set forth by the owner.


Property owners can't revoke your inalienable rights in your residence. If they want some one as a non paying guest they can.

Last I check the Bill of Rights works to prevent the government from infringing on your rights. Not property owners.



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