Feds probing how Stormy lawyer got Cohen’s banking info

a reply to: burntheships

Even if obtained illegally by a third party and turned over to authorities, they are still admissable

a reply to: TheRedneck

The mighty Phage is using a strawman?

No.

The question is why bother if there is precious little chance that it will succeed, and would likely be overturned even if it did.

That's what the prosecutor, if there is one, has to decide. Right?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: JinMI

Interesting question.

I would say so, if the person who obtained them were available for questioning about them.

I ask because lets say the financial information was "dropped into his lap" by some undisclosed party. No matter how obtained or by whatever means, if factually accurate, could they be used in court.

This would make or break the legality of Avenetti's tweets, which still have not been substantiated.

a reply to: Phage

He has been on his Twitter ranting about it, with shown intent.

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The U.S. Treasury doesn't release SAR's
because the Bank Secrecy Act prohibits it.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

You think that he obtained the information illegally and made it public? He seems to be brighter than that.

Rich Delmar, a counsel to the IG, said that in response to media reports, the office was “inquiring into allegations” that Suspicious Activity Reports on Cohen’s banking transactions were “improperly disseminated.”

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Any guesses where those allegations came from?

Does it matter where they came from if they're true?

Has nothing to do with it they are true it's all ready been shown not all the transactions were from the same Cohen. This was individual banking records of possibly 3 different people. Getting personal banking records is illegal without a court order. Someone here broke a major privacy law. Under no circumstances is it ok to release banking records without the persons permission

a reply to: JinMI

I ask because lets say the financial information was "dropped into his lap" by some undisclosed party. No matter how obtained or by whatever means, if factually accurate, could they be used in court.

Hard to say. Not knowing all the facts.

a reply to: Phage

Never claimed it was breaking.

TheRedneck

a reply to: burntheships

I don't see where he said he used SAR data. Can you point to a specific tweet?

a reply to: Phage

Correct. The prosecutor will make that decision.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

So, just a matter of attacking the messenger?

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: burntheships

Avernatti is also looking at potential disbarrment in another case involving 'losing' withheld payroll taxes, reported by a Washington State attorney.

This ain't his first rodeo skirting law...

TheRedneck

Nice link, thanks!

This guy is begging for a take down...
No doubt he will have another complaint or maybe
two or three filed on him, especially considering
that he released information on the wrong people.

I wonder too if the checks paying him would show
a huge amount of illegality going on.

Is it just getting half a million from a Russian is proof of those things?

Why would you even question if this is suspicious?! What kind of person thinks it's normal to get paid huge sums of money from foreign governments and corporations?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burntheships

I don't see where he said he used SAR data. Can you point to a specific tweet?

Why is no media outlet doing a story on the refusal of the Treasury Department to release to the public the 3 Suspicious Activity Reports that were filed concerning Essential Consultants, LLC's bank account? This deserves immediate attention. The SARs should be released now.

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So...because The Treasury Department didn't bend a knee
to this mobster he found someone to violate the law to
get the information.

That is why he is being investigated....and his "whomever"

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burntheships

I don't see where he said he used SAR data. Can you point to a specific tweet?

I think we can say that it is very unlikely that Cohen (Trump's attorney) gave him the banking info.
I can't imagine that the 'other' Cohen had any reason to give his own banking info to Stormy's lawyer.
It is one thing to wonder how he obtained the info of one person, but the fact that he also had the info of another person with the same name makes me wonder more.
So how did he obtain the info?
He could have paid someone that worked for the bank(s) to get it for him, or someone could have given it to him in an effort to cause problems for Trump's attorney.
In either of those cases, both the people that accessed the info and Stormy's lawyer broke the law.

Am I attacking the messenger.... or calling out criminal acts?

originally posted by: CB328

Is it just getting half a million from a Russian is proof of those things?

Why would you even question if this is suspicious?! What kind of person thinks it's normal to get paid huge sums of money from foreign governments and corporations?

Congressmen and Senators come to mind.
Oh... and lobbyists, but they just funnel the money to the politicians.

a reply to: xuenchen

If True , the Court should find him Guilty , then Sentence him to Pay for Stormy's Breast Reduction Job . Justice Served !

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: burntheships

Avernatti is also looking at potential disbarrment in another case involving 'losing' withheld payroll taxes, reported by a Washington State attorney.

This ain't his first rodeo skirting law...

TheRedneck

Nice link, thanks!

This guy is begging for a take down...
No doubt he will have another complaint or maybe
two or three filed on him, especially considering
that he released information on the wrong people.

I wonder too if the checks paying him would show
a huge amount of illegality going on.

Someone needs to tweet that information to POTUS. I doubt he knows or we would have heard/seen it from POTUS or Fox by now. We all know the MSM will cover their ears and go na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na...

a reply to: burntheships
I still don't see where he says he used SAR reports.

You know that the WSJ reported on a SAR report months ago. Right?

a reply to: butcherguy

Am I attacking the messenger.... or calling out criminal acts?

You are speculating.

Why not wait to find out where and how he got the information? Don't worry, the feds are all over it. Right?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: butcherguy

Am I attacking the messenger.... or calling out criminal acts?

You are speculating.

Why not wait to find out where and how he got the information? Don't worry, the feds are all over it. Right?

Surprise news flash. This site largely concerns speculative matters.
Did you come up with any other legal means of him obtaining the banking info? Not that it matters until the truth comes out, I'm just curious.