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What if Russia becomes a part of EU/NATO?
Lets say Russia was some how was annexed
and become apart of NATO or allowed to join EU under EU.
What is it going to be like in Asia?
What will happen to all the Chinatown, etc?
We all know all the Jap towns have died under US influence.
Pretty sure Indian towns wouldn't exist either.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: makemap
Instead of being rude or condescending, I'll play along.
What if Russia becomes a part of EU/NATO?
NATO was formed to counter the USSR, but the USSR no longer exists. In theory, NATO should've disbanded after the USSR collapsed. But now, it's mainly seen as a counter to Russia. In other words, I don't really see how all of Russia could join NATO. I guess a breakaway province in western Russia could probably try to join NATO after declaring independence, but in all likelihood that would lead to all out war from Russia.
As for Russia joining the EU, that would be interesting. Unfortunately, I don't have a large enough understanding of the EU to answer this intelligently. So I'll move on to the next one.
Lets say Russia was some how was annexed
Annexed by who? The EU and NATO aren't countries and they don't have their own land. To my understanding, the member countries contribute troops and funds to back those organizations. So who would even be able to annex Russia in this situation?
and become apart of NATO or allowed to join EU under EU.
I'd guess that it would be impossible for Russia to join NATO because of what I mentioned earlier. But with my limited knowledge of the EU's workings, I have my suspicions that Russia would be allowed to join the EU under certain extreme circumstances. I'd assume that those circumstances would include a long probationary period, the existing membership requirements/delays/dues, additional energy & security guarantees, and probably a guarantee that Russia would switch over to the Euro as the ultimate proof of their intentions. But like I said, I don't really know enough about the EU to comment intelligently on this one.
What is it going to be like in Asia?
Hmmm... Are you referring to Russia's current regional alliances, like the CSTO & the SCO? If so, this could be an interesting situation. Best case scenario, those countries would keep their current alliances with Russia and the entire world would inch a lot closer to total peace and prosperity.
But the pessimist in me thinks that those countries would break their current agreements with Russia, basically forcing Russia to choose Europe over them. We're talking pipelines, trade deals, cultural and political alliances, immigration deals, etc. Russia right now is like one of the 2 kings of Asia (along with China). But under the pessimistic version of these events, joining the EU would likely reduce them to a pariah in Asia and a whipped & untrusted 2nd class citizen in Europe (that's probably exaggerating but whatever).
What will happen to all the Chinatown, etc?
What do you mean? Are you referring to Chinese-majority districts or towns in Russia? In the US? In Europe? In China?
We all know all the Jap towns have died under US influence.
What do you mean? Are you referring to Japanese-majority districts or towns in Russia? In the US? In Europe? In Japan? (And fyi: "Jap town" sounds pretty derogatory)
Pretty sure Indian towns wouldn't exist either.
What do you mean? Are you referring to Indian-majority districts or towns in Russia? In the US? In Europe? In India?
Then it's April 1st, and you got pranked.
originally posted by: makemap
What if Russia becomes a part of EU/NATO?
Are we screwed? or Completely screwed?
Lets say Russia was some how was annexed and become apart of NATO or allowed to join EU under EU.
What is it going to be like in Asia? What will happen to all the Chinatown, etc? We all know all the Jap towns have died under US influence. Pretty sure Indian towns wouldn't exist either.
POLITICAL - NATO promotes democratic values and enables members to consult and cooperate on defence and security-related issues to solve problems, build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict.
MILITARY - NATO is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military power to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under the collective defence clause of NATO's founding treaty - Article 5 of the Washington Treaty or under a United Nations mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations.
originally posted by: makemap
originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: makemap
All the Chinatowns in Asia? Like, Chinese areas in eastern Russian cities? And the EU is going to make them go away?
Everywhere. We do have white people hating on Asians like the past.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: makemap
Ok, but how is a political change in Russia going to affect the numerous Chinese-majority districts ("Chinatowns") around the world? I see no correlation between the 2 things.