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McCain wants Obama to give his eulogy.

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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 05:22 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: enlightenedservant

I was trying to express the mindset of those who have had the money and power for the last 120 years. It is a Progressive movement and they take many forms, belong to many parties and in some cases none they just have the money and power and play all sides. They used it as an excuse to 'clean house' and show they were trying to remove corruption but were actually causing it. Sounds like politics today right?


What was "progressive" 120 years ago has no bearing on what's "progressive" today. Replacing horses with gasoline-powered vehicles was once incredibly progressive. But now it's progressive to replace those "outdated" gasoline-powered vehicles with electric vehicles. And if we're lucky, the progressives 100 years from now will be replacing land-based electric vehicles in favor of self piloting, self sufficient (energy wise) flying vehicles that look like advanced versions of the EHANG 184 AAV:


So maybe you're right that it was a progressive idea 120 years ago. But do you know what else were progressive ideas back then? Eugenics & Social Darwinism! US States like California had eugenics programs & sterilization programs before the Nazis ever came to power. But now, one aspect of modern American progressivism is all about equal civil rights & civil responsibilities regardless of a person's complexion, gender, financial worth, and sexual preference, which is the opposite of what eugenics & Social Darwinism were about.

If Dubya is considered a progressive today then Obama's an alt-right.
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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 05:42 PM
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Maybe McCain's wife and the rest of his family don't want Trump there, due to all the previous insults that Trump threw at him.

McCain will be dead, but his wife and family don't need to be reminded of the previous disrespect from Trump. Not at the funeral, anyways.



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: BotheLumberJack



Eh?


That's exactly what I thought when I read your question.

You were not specific.



You haven't discussed this with other atheists


I'm not an atheist and I am not responsible for what other people say/believe. Not to mention I have no desire to talk to them about their "beliefs", or the lack of my own.



and besides the fact, you don't believe in Faith driven events. So ...


I'm not sure how you know what I do believe. It appears you are making assumptions.

So...



Part3.


Can you clean that up a bit and make it more clear what you are trying to ask/say?
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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: BotheLumberJack



Eh?


That's exactly what I thought when I read your question.

You were not specific.



You haven't discussed this with other atheists


I'm not an atheist and I am not responsible for what other people say/believe.



and besides the fact, you don't believe in Faith driven events. So ...


I'm not sure how you know what I do believe. It appears you are making assumptions.

So...



Part3.


Can you clean that up a bit and make it more clear what you are trying to ask.say?


ME - Eh Translates to = 'WTF are you talking about dude? '
ME - I'm sorry I thought EH was specific enough but please, refer to the WTF reference above should you need help.
ME - Perhaps my assumptions become me, forgive my forwardness. I just call it as I see it.n you clean that up a bit and make it more clear what you are trying to ask.say?

ME - Perhaps my assumptions become me, forgive my forwardness. I just call it as I see it.

ME - Clean what up? Stop confusing me!


Just playin with ya!

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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: intrepid
He's a good speaker.

I agree. Has put me to sleep at times of insomnia many times
I ,uh , uh , me ,uh , uh , I , uh , uh....



I have to agree with you. I never "got" this oft repeated trope that Obama is some sort of outstanding speaker. He can read a teleprompter well enough but left to his own words, all he does is stammer!

I have never been impressed by his so called speaking abilities. Not even a little bit.

Even listening to him read his own book doesn't enthrall me.



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Yup...

If your claiming to know (not think) the unknowable then your the one being ridiculous..


I really liked “dogma’s” take on religion..


The problems with religion come from idiots claiming they “know” whatever gods might want..

If people think they know.. that’s not a problem..

But if you are claiming to objectively know.. well that gets dangerous fast..


If you know then it is ok to force others into your belief system..



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

I think what it really is is that what was conservative last generation , is liberal this generation..

Which I think is perfectly personified in the reaction to interracial marriage.


A generation ago the conservatives position was that interracial marriage should be illegal, and the liberal positions was “it should be legal, but it’s not for me”.


This generation conservatives think it should be legal , but it’s not for me and liberals think it is perfectly normal..


Next generation conservatives will think it is perfectly normal and liberals will think it is a good thing as it deepens the gene pool.



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Well DJT wasn't exactly kind to the old man in life, calling him a loser for getting captured, while "his" claim to fame during that era was dodging the clap and managing difficulties like bone spurs..


I thought the leftist dorks loved the draft dodgers? For pretty much my whole life leftist maggots have celebrated the ones who ran to Canada or Mexico or said they were gay.

So you guys don't like draft dodgers now? Are you going to disavow Jane Fonda and all the rest? Or is Trump the only one that is bad for doing it?

I don't get it. You lunatics need to get your "hate" list updated and sorted out. You guys are all over the place these days.



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: vinifalou

McCain is a warrior..

NOTHING beats praise from a worthy opponent to a warrior...


Scipio and Hannibal, Lee and grant..

It is the highest praise one can get..

Trump wouldn’t know anything about that since he is neither honorable or a warrior


What a stupid post. McCain is a scumbag. He's no hero. The only people claiming that are leftist maggots that are using a dying man to attack Trump. A dying man that all leftists hate but now love.

I absolutely LOVE reading moronic left wing drivel in which they DEFEND and PRAISE a warmongering neo clown piece of garbage.

It really doesn't get any more delicious than this.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Please all you leftists never stop. You bring me so much laughter throughout the day.

McCain was no war hero. He was a spoiled little prick that should have had his wings clipped the day he crashed into his own boat. His fellow POW's call him liar and a traitor.

And yet here you are singing his praises lil Joshie! That's just awesome!



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Who would want Trump giving their eulogy anyway?!!!

Then add in the fact trump badmouthed him and every POW in American history because he “likes people who don’t get caught..”

From a guy who probably has never even been in a fiat fight lol...


He is a slimeball with nothing resembling honor.


See that's why everybody laughs at you leftist toolbags. You take his words and think he meant every POW ever.

He didn't and if you knew anything about the guy and his speaking style you would know that he was specifically speaking about McMaggot.

But you keep on keeping on defending and generating a warmongering, war criminal neo con scumbag while Trump remains president and is loved by the military (serving and not serving) as much if not more than any president in recent history.

More than anybody after Regan that's for sure.



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: intrepid

Yep..

Well the exact quote was “I like soldiers who don’t get caught”..

Literally no politician in modern American history has been more disrespectful to America, the military or basically anything else you can think of..


I was pro-trump until I read Juanita Broderick’s account after he brought her to the second debate..


Once I saw how ridiculous it was, and know no thinking human being ever believed her.. it disgusted me.. because there is no way trump believed her either.. in fact he is on record in the 90’s saying she was lying.


But that didn’t stop him from pretending otherwise to win an election.


Do you have links for this crap you're peddling? Or are the male version of Sillolme?



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: intrepid

Yep..

Well the exact quote was “I like soldiers who don’t get caught”..



Well that makes sense. The previous didn't. A POW that didn't get caught is an oxymoron.
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What lil Joshie isn't telling you and what everyone that knows how Trump speaks got from that quote is that it was specifically a jab at McMaggot.

It was in no way a referendum on how Trump feels about other POW'S or the military.

And going by the insane amount of love Trump gets from the military, they know it too. And I'd wager the POW's that hate McCain and called him Songbird loved Trump for it too.

Trump saying that to McCain is like if you get in an argument with a relative or a friend and say "yeah well every gf you've had has been fat".

It's called hyperbole and Trump does it all the time. He's a New Yorker. It's kind of their calling card no?



posted on May, 8 2018 @ 09:03 PM
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You leftists need to stop being so daft. Get off your fake moral high ground please.

Any empathetic, caring human being should be jumping for joy that this maggot is going to be dead. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.

It has to do with his actions.

Open Borders.
Pro slave labour
Pro war
Neocon
Warmonger
Likely arms broker
Supporter of Isis (pics prove ot)
Supporter of neo Nazi thugs Right Sector in Ukraine (pics prove it)
Supporter of widening the conflict with Russia
With Iran (bomb bomb bomb Iran ring a bell?)
Loved the Iraq/Afghanistan wars.
Played a role in the destruction of Libya and Syria.

It should be an international holiday when McMaggot kicks the bucket. And not because of politics but because he is a Merchant of Death.

And has been his whole life. I'm actually glad Obama won in 08, it's horrifying to think what this little prick would of done with the Presidency.
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posted on May, 8 2018 @ 09:25 PM
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Good for him. And good riddance. A person who would wield his own probable impending death-due-to-illness is not worth the sympathy. And given the sycophantic rhetoric by one of his relatives the other day (calling Trump voters "crazies") I find it pretty hard to muster a tear for them either.

If McCain cared about the duties of his position, he'd resign in order to give the People of AZ their voice back in the Senate - where all but 3 of Arizona's counties overwhelming supported Trump.1

1: www.nytimes.com...

Sounds like McCain will go the same way he lived: as a petty reprobate.


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posted on May, 9 2018 @ 05:49 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963

totally agree if it was good enough for the Vikings it's good enough for me anyway my speaker will probably be too pissed to understand



posted on May, 9 2018 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: tinymind

That’s not tacky at all...


Actually, composed and delivered in memory of four friends who were on the fire crew of the USS Forrestal (CV-59).



posted on May, 9 2018 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

It's easier to just say that times change and public opinions change along with the times. Because it's not as simple as "what was conservative yesterday becomes liberal today", or vice versa.

Some conservative ideas from the past simply become obsolete in time. And some "new age, progressive" thinking eventually becomes the norm, and then eventually becomes the cherished traditions that the new "conservatives" wish to cling to. And some traditional/conservative ideas become obsolete in one era (like how growing your own gardens and cooking your own meals gave way to fast food, microwaveable meals, etc); only to later be brought back by the "progressive" minds who seek to improve upon the new paradigm w/urban gardens, organic/natural foods, etc

That's why I kept pointing out that "progressive" and "conservative" are relative terms that have no meaning without context. In a community with harsh laws against public sexuality and public acts of affection, it's "progressive" to want less prudish laws, to want to be able wear whatever you want in public, and to want to be able to show affection in public. But in a community with widespread public sexuality & widespread pressure to be as sexual as possible, a new movement to cover up and hide one's sexuality could be seen as "progressive" for its new age thinking or as "conservative" if it's claiming that it's intending to take society back to some longed after past era.

The terms only matter based on what they're being compared to, which is why it doesn't make sense for someone to use 120 year old traditions to claim that Bush is a modern progressive.



posted on May, 9 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: MRinder

Of course a treasonite like McCain would want another socialist treasonite to mc his funeral. If Trump gave the eulogy some truth may slip out.



posted on May, 9 2018 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: MRinder

Of course a treasonite like McCain would want another socialist treasonite to mc his funeral. If Trump gave the eulogy some truth may slip out.



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