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FBI wiretaps prove double standard

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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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So with the news today that apparently the FBI wiretapped trumps lawyer cohen, and got at least one conversation with him talking to someone at the whitehouse, I figured now would be a good time to take stock of just how different the FBI/Mueller investigations of Hillary compared to the investigation into trump has gone.

BIAS

We know that the heads of the CIA (Brennan) CIA (Clapper) and FBI (Comey) all hated trump as has been proven by their media tour as of late.

We know that the second in command of the FBI McCabe disliked trump, was having meetings with strzok about "insurance policies" in case he got elected, and wife got money from Hillary and company to run for office.

We know that strzok (and page) both favored hillary. Strzok interviewed hillary flynn and others and was central into both investigations.

We know that many people on Muellers team donated to dems, and at elast one actually represented people on hillarys team as a lawyer.

We know that Steele who wrote the dossier and was paid for by the hiallry camp hated trump. We know that Clinton hatchet man Blumenthal was leaking info to Obamas state dept. that made its way to the fbi and helped with their efforts to wiretap Page.

And so far we have not seen even one example of one person that voted for trump, donated to his campaign, or has worked with him in the past/

WIRETAPPING

We now know that at least two people connected to trump have been wiretapped; Carter Page and trumps lawyer cohen.

Page was tapped using paid oppo research by hillary as a large part of the bases for spying on an associate of a presidential campaign. We know the FBI used a leftists journalists story that steele was the source to help verify the claims of the dossier.

We know that it now seems as if Coghen was wiretapped, and had his office raided (whihc I have never heard of a sitting preisdents lawyer being wiretapped in history).

This was all done in the name of solving some sort of accused crime.

Yet no one in hillarys camp was ever wiretapped despite the crimes she was accused of. In fact quite the opposite, her associates were granted immunity for nothing in exchange, and then had their electronic devices destroyed by the FBI.

CRIMES

We know the FBI and mueller have charged trump associates for lying to the FBI. We also know they knew that Mills and Abedin lied to the fbi, but decided to not charge them (and to leave at least mills sit in on the interview with Hillary).

We know that Manafort was charged for working with groups to peddle foriegn influence and not properly registering. We know that Hillarys campaign managers (Podesta) brothers group the Podesta group was one of the groups working with manafort to peddle foreign influence and also didnt file, yet instead of charging them, the fbi allowed them to retroactively file.


There is much more that I can (and probably will) discuss, but this alone is incredible. Now keep in mind Chuck Schumer admitting that Trump shouldnt criticize the intel community because they have ways of getting back at him.

Can anyone really argue that this is not exactly what is happening? It is obvious that they terated hillary and company woth kid gloves, and will do anything possible to find any crime that trump or his team may have committed, including spying on him, his team or anyone else connected to them.

Now I will say for the millionth time; if trump committed a crime, let him go down for it.

But the reason that I wanted bernie (who also got screwed) or trump to win was because I was tired of the establishment corruption.

So I am fine that they go after trump this hard, as long as the same veracity was applied to everyone in washington.

Buts its not. The intel community can leak (like comey) hillarys team can do whatever, and they will not be investigated in this manner.

So I say bring on the wiretaps, lets wiretap every single politician in washington, investiagte them for decades past, raid their lawyers, and charge them with any crime at all.

But as we know, thats not what the people that want trump to go down want; they are ok with crimes unless trump or his associates committ them.

And they will cheer on this deep state corruption.

Sad that eventually it will be used against a person they like that would want to make a change.



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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:39 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Of course there is a double-standard and a bias.

The issue was never to follow the rule of law.

It was to remove Trump and punish anyone who ever wanted to have anyone other than an establishment democrat or a republican in office.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:44 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Grambler

Of course there is a double-standard and a bias.

The issue was never to follow the rule of law.

It was to remove Trump and punish anyone who ever wanted to have anyone other than an establishment democrat or a republican in office.



I love the glee the anti trumpers have at this.

They know that its a double standard, and they love it.

Lucky for them when these abuses will be leveled at someone they support, I will not give up my ideals cause it helps my "team" and I will still stand up against this abuse.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Yeah, I've tried to stay consistent as well.

Just get used to being called a racist or traitor or something if you dare try to impugn the leftists.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Its a horrid double standard that should offend every free thinking person in the country.

BUT at least it is starting to wake some up to the rampant corruption on both sides of the aisle so maybe maybe the people can start chipping away at the beast in DC.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Grambler

Its a horrid double standard that should offend every free thinking person in the country.

BUT at least it is starting to wake some up to the rampant corruption on both sides of the aisle so maybe maybe the people can start chipping away at the beast in DC.



My entire reason for voting for trump was to expose this double standard, which he has done in a big way, rather intentionally or not.

Those willing to cheer this on have no idea the magnitude of corruption they are cheering for. Or they do and dont care cause they hate trump that much.

If trump committed a crime, he deserves to be punished.

But any reasonable person can see that this is corrupt, and should be appalled at the weaponization of the intel community.


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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

With the Hilary email investigation, the FBI and authorities took great leaps to disguise the activities of those involved; but with Trump, they have taken great leaps to pretend the activities of those involved were criminal. It's a complete reversal of due diligence, and it flouts the principles of law enforcement. I'm not sure how the American people can stand for this, let alone react with glee.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:03 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


Look, trump is a crooked liar, no matter what the FBI did or did not do. I don't think the FBI broke any laws. If you can't yet see that trump is a corrupt, dirty man, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, and lie with no conscience whatsoever!


Muller is not leading a witch hunt, and trump acts GUILTY AS HELL!!!!


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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Grambler


Look, trump is a crooked liar, no matter what the FBI did or did not do. I don't think the FBI broke any laws. If you can't yet see that trump is a corrupt, dirty man, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, and lie with no conscience whatsoever!


Muller is not leading a witch hunt, and trump acts GUILTY AS HELL!!!!


Yes we know that is your sides opinion.

Trump is bad, so do whatever is necessary to prove that.

Funny Hillary is a bad person, and Obama, and schumer, and McConnel, and Bush and so forth.

Yet this standard wasnt applied to them.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:09 PM
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The FBI are clearly acting like a criminal protection racket. The problem is that, realistically, there is nobody who can/will arrest and prosecute the corrupt agents.

The only real solution I can think of is to use military tribunals to clean out the bad actors. It's a frightening thought, but I can't think of any alternative that wouldn't be much worse (ie, armed insurrection against the police state).
edit on 3-5-2018 by AndyFromMichigan because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Grambler


Look, trump is a crooked liar, no matter what the FBI did or did not do. I don't think the FBI broke any laws. If you can't yet see that trump is a corrupt, dirty man, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, and lie with no conscience whatsoever!


Muller is not leading a witch hunt, and trump acts GUILTY AS HELL!!!!


Yes we know that is your sides opinion.

Trump is bad, so do whatever is necessary to prove that.

Funny Hillary is a bad person, and Obama, and schumer, and McConnel, and Bush and so forth.

Yet this standard wasnt applied to them.







Its the republican party with the double standards, and allot of what you believe about Clinton and pass around ATS with the other info wars people is not even true...Uranium One, The Clinton Foundation and the Clintons have all been under investigation before. Nothing substantial was found. As of now the Clinton foundation IS UNDER INVESTIGATION, so far nothing has been found.

Perhaps you are too young to remember just how much crap the MSM gave Bill Clinton. He was under investigation for allot of things as POTUS. Not once did I see or hear him bash MSM, for reporting on all of that. trump makes it WORSE because he attacks the MSM for reporting the TRUTH and calls it fake news. That is a Lie, its not fake news, trump has no right to lie to the American people and tell them it is fake news. Clinton NEVER did that.








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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Grambler


Look, trump is a crooked liar, no matter what the FBI did or did not do. I don't think the FBI broke any laws. If you can't yet see that trump is a corrupt, dirty man, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, and lie with no conscience whatsoever!


Muller is not leading a witch hunt, and trump acts GUILTY AS HELL!!!!


I feel like you missed the entire point of this thread and in fact reinforced the OPs argument that Leftists don’t care about double standards and due process if it serves their interests.


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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

So the phrase double standard is whats confusing you?

If trump is getting hit so hard his people are having their history investigated back 20 years, and some are having their kids threatened to get people to plead guilty...

Yet like you said all those investigations and no charges were pressed, you say that means innocent the rest of us say double standard.


hope that helped clear it up a bit.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:28 PM
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Careful about falling for the MSM with this.

There's no real confirmation.

All based on "sourzzes"

The Strategy is Working.

Bigger bombshell coming soon.

😎



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: kurthall

First off I was young when the counsel on Bill happened, but even I thought it was dumb.

I dont care who he had consensual sex with.

As far as saying fake news, need I bring up just how many stories from MSM lately have been outright fake?

Lets not forget who started the term fake news, Hillary loving MSM people.

Lets not forget how Obama attacked whistle blowers and journalists, even wiretapping a journalist he didnt like.

But you are right, trump is sooo much worse.

Look we get your point.

You hate trump; so he should be removed and ealt with by any means neccessary.

I enjoy posting detailed posts like about comey fox interview, or the fact that clapper was leaking to cnn and most liklley set up the briefing of trump to help cnn publsih about the dossier, only to have people like yopu respond

"Trump is a bad poo poo head liar and needs to go down!"

We get it, you dont care about an impartial intel agency.

Some of us still do though, so dont mind if we actually talk specifics insetad of your broad generalizations that ignore everything presented.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Careful about falling for the MSM with this.

There's no real confirmation.

All based on "sourzzes"

The Strategy is Working.

Bigger bombshell coming soon.

😎



You could be right and this could be a bluff.

I am assuming with this OP it is true.

If iots not, then everything other than the wiretap on cohen still applies, and the FBI or MSM is inetntionally leaking garbage to try to hurt trump, which is again disgusting.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

There were more than the Lewinsky investigations....WHITE WATER INVESTIGATION....went of FOREVER....its was on TV constantly....I am 47 and remember all of it. All negative about Bill, untill he was eventually found inocent. This went on for a really lont time....It was a sham, there was nothink illegal found. Yet the investigation that cost millions went on and on!

So my point is, Bill let the FBI and CIA do their jobs, even though he did nothing criminal. He never bashed the media, and int this case against Bill Clinton, it really was a WITCH HUNT!









posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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It's the people cheering on the deep state no matter how unconstitutional, how illegal or unethical their activities are so long as they're going after Trump or his associates. Those people scare me honestly, they remind me of the crowds in France calling for the guillotining of anyone or everyone, it didn't matter what they had or hadn't done. Nothing but blood would satisfy them. America is full of Jacobins hell bent on bringing down Trump. They can't even tell you why other than throw out ad hominems with no basis in reality. "He's a racist" is good enough.

Trump went from being a popular reality tv star to America's most hated. White privilege I suppose, the quintessential figure of the patriarchy that is keeping all women and minorities down. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Who needs assassins or deep state agents when the media and the mob are willing to do it all themselves?
Seems to me we could save a lot of money by getting rid of these alphabet agencies that work for the globalists instead of those who pay their salaries.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Grambler


Look, trump is a crooked liar, no matter what the FBI did or did not do. I don't think the FBI broke any laws. If you can't yet see that trump is a corrupt, dirty man, who will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, and lie with no conscience whatsoever!


Muller is not leading a witch hunt, and trump acts GUILTY AS HELL!!!!


And this is the problem with idiots. What the FBI does and does not do actually does matter. It doesn't just matter when you want it to.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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But we're supposed to kneel at the greatness and integrity of the foot soldiers of the FBI.

When in reality, they've become an extension of the socialist party... er, I mean... well, you know!!!

What a f##king joke!







 
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