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Misguided Praise For Trump Re North Korea.

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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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No, Trump is not the catalyst that has bought about events in North Korea.

China is the major power broker, with it's crippling economic sanctions on North Korea. Without China, NK are screwed.




China has turned off the tap on crucial goods for North Korea in a bid to pile on economic pressure as South and North Korean leaders prepare for an unprecedented diplomatic summit this April, and hopes for May talks between the US the isolated country mount. The leaders of North and South Korea are to meet on April 27 for the first time in more than a decade, the two countries announced on Thursday after preliminary talks between senior officials.An analysis of Chinese customs data from Aberdeen Standard Investments has revealed that China’s exports of refined petroleum to North Korea have collapsed in the last five months, to as little as 3.7 per cent on the previous year.


www.telegraph.co.uk...



Trump may have well had some input into improving relations, but it is China that is calling the shots. Trump is just but a bit player.



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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Cause and effect.... for every action there is a equal reaction.

Trump squeeze China, China squeeze N Korea...


Don’t let that hurt your feelings now.....



edit on 3-5-2018 by GuidedKill because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
No, Trump is not the catalyst that has bought about events in North Korea.

China is the major power broker, with it's crippling economic sanctions on North Korea. Without China, NK are screwed.




China has turned off the tap on crucial goods for North Korea in a bid to pile on economic pressure as South and North Korean leaders prepare for an unprecedented diplomatic summit this April, and hopes for May talks between the US the isolated country mount. The leaders of North and South Korea are to meet on April 27 for the first time in more than a decade, the two countries announced on Thursday after preliminary talks between senior officials.An analysis of Chinese customs data from Aberdeen Standard Investments has revealed that China’s exports of refined petroleum to North Korea have collapsed in the last five months, to as little as 3.7 per cent on the previous year.


www.telegraph.co.uk...



Trump may have well had some input into improving relations, but it is China that is calling the shots. Trump is just but a bit player.




South Korea and Japan are the reason for NKorea possibly giving their nukes, also the fact that their testing facility has collapsed. trump is not the reason! As usual he will take full credit, where perhaps 10% of the credit is due.


Now today we found out again what a LIAR trump is with the payment he knew "nothing about" he did know about and Repaid it....Lie after lie, after lie after lie!





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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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#Winning.

Nobel Peace Prizing coming soon.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: GuidedKill




Trump squeeze China,


Do you honestly think China is going to listen to Trump after he started a Trade War with them?

Misguided or what?



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

At the end of the day presidents are just a part in geopolitics.

The rest is mental gymnastics by the people who decide to get caught up in either side of partisanship.

Should it go through, who cares who gets credit and who doesn't. The world can breath a bit of fresh air... For now.


My concern is this triumph of peace will distract the drums beating for Iran.

Edit: it would also free up a lot of assets and attention for focus and pressure on a new front.
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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: GuidedKill




Trump squeeze China,


Do you honestly think China is going to listen to Trump after he started a Trade War with them?

Misguided or what?


Apparently they are....

Link



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:18 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: GuidedKill




Trump squeeze China,


Do you honestly think China is going to listen to Trump after he started a Trade War with them?

Misguided or what?


Apparently they are....

Link




To avoid a Trade War yes. As part of brokering peace in NK no.

Trump has started a trade war also with The EU. So what peace is Trump trying to broker in Europe.

Answers here...............


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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

I'm confused first they say he's gonna cause nuclear war with NK next he has nothing to do with the peace process. Can we please stay consistent I know we can be blinded by hatred



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: GuidedKill




Trump squeeze China,


Do you honestly think China is going to listen to Trump after he started a Trade War with them?

Misguided or what?

The customer is always right. US is the worlds biggest consumer by far, China is the worlds manufacturer...if your main customer says he might stop buying from you, you're gonna react.

I don't like Trump all that much, but I am giving him props for whats going on..not full, but to say he hasn't been very influential in whats happening right now is being a bit disingenious



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:22 AM
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a reply to: kurthall

I'm sure this had nothing to do with China suddenly putting the squeeze on Kim though, right?

www.cnn.com...


Fri March 23, 2018
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump launched the next salvo in his widening war on Chinese trade abuses, this time taking aim at China's unfair seizure of US intellectual property. Trump on Thursday directed the US trade representative to level tariffs on about $50 billion worth of Chinese imports following a seven-month investigation into the intellectual property theft, which has been a longstanding point of contention in US-China trade relations. In addition to the tariffs, the US also plans to impose new investment restrictions, take action against China at the World Trade Organization and the Treasury Department also will propose additional measures.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: SaturnFX




The customer is always right. US is the worlds biggest consumer by far,


Wrong. The EU is larger.

uk.businessinsider.com...



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: GuidedKill

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: GuidedKill




Trump squeeze China,


Do you honestly think China is going to listen to Trump after he started a Trade War with them?

Misguided or what?


Apparently they are....

Link




To avoid a Trade War yes. As part of brokering peace in NK no.

Trump has started a trade war also with The EU. So what peace is Trump trying to broker in Europe.

Answers here...............


Trade war with China is just one facet of negotiation. A good negotiator uses every pressure point he/she can to broker the deal. Trump is effectively killing two birds with one stone and all you want to do is despairage his efforts when you should be thanking him. Fact is no one wants a nuclear N Korea and what ever he has done to facilitate that I support....


Do you?



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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I think Trump had something to do with it. I said once before that Trump's behavior is so atypical of any other politician in modern history that Kim, or anyone else for that matter, can't predict what he might actually do.

But, I believe a major factor driving Kim's decision to go to the negotiating table is the collapse of his nuclear testing facility. Without having a good place to show off his toys, he can't get the attention he craves.

So, he's either come to his senses, or he's trying to buy time to build another test facility.

-dex



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: GuidedKill
a reply to: alldaylong

Cause and effect.... for every action there is a equal reaction.

Trump squeeze China, China squeeze N Korea...


Don’t let that hurt your feelings now.....




Pretty simple really.

Anyone that denies the direct impact of Trump is in denial.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: GuidedKill




Trade war with China is just one facet of negotiation


Trade war with China was part of his 2016 Election Campaign, a promise to American Workers.

Nothing to do with NK.




“Hillary Clinton unleashed a trade war against the American worker when she supported one terrible trade deal after another – from NAFTA to China to South Korea,” he said. “A Trump Administration will end that war by getting a fair deal for the American people. The era of economic surrender will finally be over.”



time.com...



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Maybe to stop the US from constantly getting screwed on trade deals? It's high time we start taking care of our own country and let the EU take care of itself.

fortune.com...

The U.S. trades more than $170 billion with Germany alone at $64 billion deficit.



www.thebalance.com...

The United States has the world's largest trade deficit. It's been that way since 1975. The deficit in goods and services was $566 billion in 2017.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Other countries have been taking advantage of the US for decades. It was time for someone to put their foot down.

Would you prefer to continue the way it has been going?

Ppl shouldn't let blind hatred of Trump get in the way of sound economic decisions.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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Trump will get credit for this.

The logic displayed here is troubling. China, for all intents and purposes, would leave Noko alone, the status quo as usual. Its been like that for decades.

During that time, nothing was ever really truly done, taking advantage of US naivete and its deep pockets.

Then Trump comes along, wagging a big stick and what do you know? A few tense words, some posturing, now we're all friends. Peace.

Peace.

Yes, Trump will get credit for this silly.

Your Trump hates only weakness? You reek of it, some expectations are in order when viewing your threads, carry on folks, it stinks high hell in here 😵🤭😷



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123




China, for all intents and purposes, would leave Noko alone, the status quo as usual. Its been like that for decades


Apart from NK in the last 12 months testing nuclear weapons on China's doorstep do you mean?




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