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originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: yuppa
Genocide is the only way to win a war, because if you don't kill everyone their children will grow up and come after you. No one wants to go down that track, so no one wins a war.
Actually you just kill all men over the age of 12 and indoc the rest...ask the Russians they know it well. This is why America should not go to war to occupy...we can not do it right, and that is a good thing, though war is a bad thing.
originally posted by: jumanji
The current Iran government is pro Russia and buys Russian weapons not American weapons. If the US is to invade Iran, change the government to one that is pro America and anti Russia that buys American weapons not Russian weapons, then Russia would consider such an invasion a hostile move and supply weapons to northern Iran via Caspian sea, the end result would be a northern Iran that is pro Russia anti America and a southern Iran that is pro America and anti Russia. The end result is like Korea, a pro Russia northern part and a pro America southern part.
originally posted by: Fermy
Probably, yes. But it won't be America's war, it'll be Israel's war and Americans will die for the Zionist nightmare.
Let Israel fight her own battles and slug it out in the M.E without other nations interference, you pick fights then best you finish them before they finish you. Or better still, don't start fights.
originally posted by: tovenar
USA controls the world's oceans. It can deny access to the high seas, while no other power can prevent US access. US has the power to mobilize entire fleets to within striking range of Iran. Iran can not do so to America.
Similarly with airspace. Using it's naval control, the US can access, and probably quickly dominate, Iranian airspace. Iran has no hope of doing so to the continental US, China and Russia might be able to challenge the US over it's own dirt, in some fantasy, but that's a different scenario.
The US can control Iranian airspace, and projects force into it's borders. Iran is unable to reciprocate.
IF the US insisted on fighting Iran, with a "free for all" because Iran is a nuclear power... then Iran is a target-rich environment, totally unlike Iraq. The US would probably destroy the Iranian transportation, communication and power grids, greatly impeding it's domestic defense. Most importantly, Iran's economy is almost completely dependent upon oil revenues. The oil extraction infrastructure is particularly vulnerable, and Iran could be deprived of any meaningful economic output for decades to come.
The US-led coalition's occupation of Iraq was greatly hampered by... Iran. The nature of the Iraqi state is that there were two principal factions, Shia and Sunni.
In contrast, Iran is an incredible crazy-quilt of ethnic enclaves. Ethnic Persians barely make up 55% of the population. Kurds are the next biggest minority, and would surely see the collapse of the Tehran regime as their opportunity to build a "greater Kurdistan" with contributions of land from Iran, Turkey, Syria et al. plenty of other minorities would see a coalition with Kurdistan as their best hope to escape Shia cultural and political domination. In other words, once the regime in Tehran fell, Iran would collapse as a state unless propped up by ... a coalition of the willing.
How many of its neighbors would support a centralized Iranian state? would Iraq? or perhaps Afghanistan? Russia would be fine with the boost in oil prices caused by Iran going offline for several decades. What about India, would it benefit if Iran were partitioned? or China...
There are not a lot of rosy outcomes.
Kim Jeong-Un just did the math on his own regime, beginning to cost the USA more than the price of cleaning up the pieces if the north collapsed. More importantly China realized that Trump is painting the NORKs as China's cat's paw. China has a lot of enemies now, so it needs NK to make nice for a season.
Similar with Iran. The ayatollah can talk smack until somebody big decides to shut him up. But Iran's own allies will shut him up, so Trump won't be tempted to... shut him down.