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Rudy Giuliani Admits Trump Repaid Cohen

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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 03:08 PM
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Ok fine, boot Trump and lets get on with the Pence Administration.

Winning!




posted on May, 3 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: rickymouse
Politicians lie continuously, when they tell the truth, that is when you need to be concerned.

The Stormy daniels deal, I do not trust her lawyer at all, and she states it was an affair and consensual. No law against that. If his wife wants to leave him for something he did twelve years ago, that is her business. I think Stormy and her lawyer should be brought up on charges of blasphemy against the president. I think she should be charged with blackmail too. And her lawyer an accomplice.


Blasphemy?

I knew it... it's a religious cult, isn't it?


Blasphemy: Definition: A cross between a phone and the internet. Not the apple or blackberry we used to use.

edit on 3-5-2018 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I'm not posting this for the sake of this admission, purely because I've not veered from a "he screwed a whore 12 years ago, who cares?" position on the topic. I am posting this, however, to draw attention to the absolute self aggrandizing jackass tabloid chaser Stormy Daniels hired as her attorney. Alongside the self important, arrogance of the American media.


Trump told reporters several weeks ago that he didn't know about the $130,000 payment to Daniels as part of a nondisclosure agreement she signed days before the 2016 presidential election.

Asked aboard Air Force One whether he knew about the payment, Trump said flatly: "No." Trump also said he didn't know why Cohen had made the payment or where he got the money.


Daniels' lawyer's comment...

Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, called the comment "a stunning revelation."

"Mr. Trump evidently has participated in a felony and there must be serious consequences for his conduct and his lies and deception to the American people," he said.


WHAT? He did what now? A felony? My God, what a legally clueless arsehole you are, sir. Some half-a-hey-how-you-doin reporter aboard Air Force One is not a judge, Member of Congress, or Special Counsel. There is no legal mandate to ever tell the media anything, truth or otherwise. If I wanted to call up the local newspaper tomorrow and fabricate a story about monkeys flying out of my hind end, it's 100% on them if they're desperate and stupid enough to print it as truth.

What arrogance! This imbecile lawyer is the reason the media in the USA consider themselves to be gods, above reproach, somehow authorized to pick and choose what they report and spin it in a way to ensure it is viewed as either truth or fiction depending on their whims, but this idjit thinks it's a felony to off handedly dismiss any question one of their member's asks with less than a truthful, serious answer? Oh God, everything wrong with the legal profession and the US media rolled up in the same ZigZag paper right there.


Oh, you are definitely right. We should never believe anything tRump says as truth.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Butterfinger
Ok fine, boot Trump and lets get on with the Pence Administration.

Winning!


Pence and a Democratic House and Senate. Sounds like a stalemate to me. The good news is GOP registration is down. The GOP may never recover from Trump.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 06:11 PM
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I'm sorry guys... this whole business
leaves me in absoute stitches
the absurdity of it all

"What ? You paid who ? Why ? When ? How fer jebus sake !?"
Evidently, this :



"Hey, she gave me vee dee"

That's some expensive clap you got there, Stormy'



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Admitted

Easy, I saw him as not being a cookie cutter politician like Hillary who was far more corrupt and callous in regards to indifference to loss of life (cough *Bengahzi - "What difference does it make", Gaddafi - "We came, we saw, he died", etc. So he banged a porn star. Shrug. Whether he initiated it or not I'll give it to you it was not a good choice, but outside our area of concern as it is a personal affair. Hey, answer me this...Bill Cosby was found guilty, but Bill Clinton is still roaming free to rape again. Do you feel that is fair? Or a concern? Bill Clinton wasn't booted out of office, but merely censured. Were you okay with just a slap on the wrist for hitting on a near underage intern under his employ?
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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: rickymouse
Politicians lie continuously, when they tell the truth, that is when you need to be concerned.

The Stormy daniels deal, I do not trust her lawyer at all, and she states it was an affair and consensual. No law against that. If his wife wants to leave him for something he did twelve years ago, that is her business. I think Stormy and her lawyer should be brought up on charges of blasphemy against the president. I think she should be charged with blackmail too. And her lawyer an accomplice.


Blasphemy?

I knew it... it's a religious cult, isn't it?


Blasphemy: Definition: A cross between a phone and the internet. Not the apple or blackberry we used to use.


That was so clever!!! Do you know the definition of draft dodger?

www.washingtonpost.com... utm_term=.b7ef3584cfe0



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Bone-spuritis ?



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: rickymouse
Politicians lie continuously, when they tell the truth, that is when you need to be concerned.

The Stormy daniels deal, I do not trust her lawyer at all, and she states it was an affair and consensual. No law against that. If his wife wants to leave him for something he did twelve years ago, that is her business. I think Stormy and her lawyer should be brought up on charges of blasphemy against the president. I think she should be charged with blackmail too. And her lawyer an accomplice.


Blasphemy?

I knew it... it's a religious cult, isn't it?


Blasphemy: Definition: A cross between a phone and the internet. Not the apple or blackberry we used to use.


That was so clever!!! Do you know the definition of draft dodger?

www.washingtonpost.com... utm_term=.b7ef3584cfe0



Funny, that sure didn't matter to the left when it was Bill Clinton or Bernie Sanders more recently. Even more interesting that you'd play that card when Trump had legal deferments while Clinton signed up for "advanced ROTC" when he believed he could be drafted, only to reneg on that commitment immediately following the lottery, when he was drawn in the 311th position, assuring he'd almost certainly not end up drafted.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 07:18 PM
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How many times has this narrative changed now ?

I duuno, it's all a bit flip floppy for me




posted on May, 3 2018 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: rickymouse
Politicians lie continuously, when they tell the truth, that is when you need to be concerned.

The Stormy daniels deal, I do not trust her lawyer at all, and she states it was an affair and consensual. No law against that. If his wife wants to leave him for something he did twelve years ago, that is her business. I think Stormy and her lawyer should be brought up on charges of blasphemy against the president. I think she should be charged with blackmail too. And her lawyer an accomplice.


Blasphemy?

I knew it... it's a religious cult, isn't it?


Blasphemy: Definition: A cross between a phone and the internet. Not the apple or blackberry we used to use.


That was so clever!!! Do you know the definition of draft dodger?

www.washingtonpost.com... utm_term=.b7ef3584cfe0



Funny, that sure didn't matter to the left when it was Bill Clinton or Bernie Sanders more recently. Even more interesting that you'd play that card when Trump had legal deferments while Clinton signed up for "advanced ROTC" when he believed he could be drafted, only to reneg on that commitment immediately following the lottery, when he was drawn in the 311th position, assuring he'd almost certainly not end up drafted.


What aboutism seems to be your fall back position. Sad really...

I served and have family that were killed in Nam. I'll never forgive Trump, just like the right wing will always hate Obama.
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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
I served and have family that were killed in Nam.

Thank you, and I am sorry for your loss, which was a loss for this entire nation. For whatever it is worth, I had relative who served in Korea and Vietnam, and through the lens of history, I can't say the Vietnam War was a good idea for this country in any way.


I'll never forgive Trump.

That's entirely your choice and your right.


As far as your whataboutism barb (there's an overused term that needs to have it's pecker stapled to "snowflakes" face and both of them tossed into the abyss, never to be heard again.) I disagree. It was simply stating a fact, an irony, if you will. Little different than what you've been doing today by bringing the draft issue into a couple of Trump threads. Yours is a tad more subtle "Oh, Republicans... you always ripped on draft dodgers, but whatabout Trump?" but it is still very much a whataboutism, so at least in Hell I see I'll be in good company. Do you want to sit a Lucifer's right hand, or his left? I'm fine either side...

ETA: Before abyss tossing, let's make it a three-way and hot glue "triggered" to whataboutism's ass while we're at it.
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posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:07 PM
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Trump is just so shady. LOL

Wow.

Keep in mind that if Obama had done half this crap, he'd be out by now.

I'm okay with Trump out and Pence in. I don't really like Pence nor do I want a Religious American, but I believe he has morals and a code of ethics.

I was going to say that ATS would be more boring without Trump but we had a billion political threads with Obama and Bush so I don't see that trend disapearing any time soon no matter what.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Heh, it also provides another avenue into Trump's finances.

"Prove you paid him, Donald."

Good job, Rudy.


I may have to go dig up all the lies Obama told. Let's start with the first one "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". Seams like a good place to start, doesn't it?

Are you intelligent enough to see which lie hurts the American people and which doesn't, you do understand they are of different magnitudes, don't you? And, before you say "This isn't about Obama", yet is it. It's about all Presidents and which ones lies actually hurt the nation, and which ones didn't. I'm sure we can add to the list of lies Obama, Bush and Clinton (all NWO) have told, yet the media is trying to hang Trump over something from ten years ago and liberals jump all over it like it happened while he was in office.

Only goes to show me that the media is part of the NWO as well. You really need to wake up and see what is going on around you.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Trump is just so shady. LOL

Wow.

Keep in mind that if Obama had done half this crap, he'd be out by now.

I'm okay with Trump out and Pence in. I don't really like Pence nor do I want a Religious American, but I believe he has morals and a code of ethics.

I was going to say that ATS would be more boring without Trump but we had a billion political threads with Obama and Bush so I don't see that trend disapearing any time soon no matter what.


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"

Obama did more than Trump, by a LONGGGG SHOT!



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
Keep in mind that if Obama had done half this crap, he'd be out by now.


They couldn't even get an independent counsel to look into the Fast and Furious gun running felonies of Obama and Holder after the Congressional panel found the DOJ had obstructed justice, but you really believe what you just posted? Here's a simple fact, had Obama, GWB, Clinton, Bush Sr, or even Reagan spent their entire presidency (so far accurate) under a microscope, God only knows how much would have been found. My God, since he left office we've learned that Obama used his position to wiretap Trump, used his position to prevent much of the media from negative reports on him, used his position to assist in the formation of the false dossier then used the DOJ and the FBI to turn it into a story... this was all in the waning months of his presidency and doesn't even touch on F&F, Benghazi, the ACA, the infamous "I'll have more flexibility after the election" promise to Moscow, etc.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: TheGOAT

originally posted by: amazing
Trump is just so shady. LOL

Wow.

Keep in mind that if Obama had done half this crap, he'd be out by now.

I'm okay with Trump out and Pence in. I don't really like Pence nor do I want a Religious American, but I believe he has morals and a code of ethics.

I was going to say that ATS would be more boring without Trump but we had a billion political threads with Obama and Bush so I don't see that trend disapearing any time soon no matter what.


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"

Obama did more than Trump, by a LONGGGG SHOT!


Not like this. that was all politics as usual. He didn't sleep with porn stars and pay them off and tweet non stop and insult everyone on the planet and on and on and on. Obama was no worse than Bush or Clinton or Reagan or any of them.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: amazing
Keep in mind that if Obama had done half this crap, he'd be out by now.


They couldn't even get an independent counsel to look into the Fast and Furious gun running felonies of Obama and Holder after the Congressional panel found the DOJ had obstructed justice, but you really believe what you just posted? Here's a simple fact, had Obama, GWB, Clinton, Bush Sr, or even Reagan spent their entire presidency (so far accurate) under a microscope, God only knows how much would have been found. My God, since he left office we've learned that Obama used his position to wiretap Trump, used his position to prevent much of the media from negative reports on him, used his position to assist in the formation of the false dossier then used the DOJ and the FBI to turn it into a story... this was all in the waning months of his presidency and doesn't even touch on F&F, Benghazi, the ACA, the infamous "I'll have more flexibility after the election" promise to Moscow, etc.


Obama was under a microscope so much it was crazy. Every right wing news source was all over everything he did. Everytime he played golf there were reports on it...especially on Talk radio. Do you even believe what you just posted?

You could say that Fast and Furious is just like Russian Collusion. I keep waiting for something. or his Birth Ceritifcate.. I'm still waiting on that proof. Or Benghazi.. Trey Gowdy had a whole hearing on it...nothing. ACA...actually helped us. Our insurance was actually better and cheaper. It helped millions of people. It's just like every other government program. helps some hurts some. Next.



posted on May, 4 2018 @ 03:38 AM
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love watching people show their true colors. such hypocrites with their double standard. life and actions worse then those they judge. how long can you lie to yourselves. lol



posted on May, 4 2018 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: burdman30ott6

This exonerates Cohen from any charges of using campaign $ illegally.

And I agree Stormy's lawyer is a total hack.


This does NOT exonerate him from campaign money. Guilianni clearly brought up the fact that this payment was made in an attempt to protect trump from the POLITICAL fallout (ie. his comments about what if this came out during the debate). If Cohen paid money to protect candidate/campaign trump, that would be an unreported, in-kind donation to his campaign which would be about 50x's higher than the legal allowable limit.



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