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originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Scrubdog
Once again..Mueller must PROVE payments were structured to get around laws. AND HE MUST convince 67 senators of this. Unless he offers real proof that aint happening Perry Mason
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
a reply to: Scrubdog
Look at all the pretty stars lined-up above your post. And yet your post contains not a shred of any of the real issues, and serves as nothing more than a "So a president nailed a porn star 12 years ago with a new wife and newborn at home, paid her at the time, so what? Happens all the time ..." Except it doesn't, other than with this president.
How emotional.
Yeah probably does all the time, in Hollywood.
Trump has been heavily financially involved with Russia for over a decade. The odds that he isn't compromised by the Kremlin are extremely low. One doesn't do business with the Russian mob and "come out ahead." That is, unless one has something to offer, such as "I won't enforce economic sanctions against Russia, nor ever cross Putin ..."
One thing about that is that you need proof.
It is noteworthy that it doesn't bother many Trump supporters that the president on a weekly basis proves he lies like most people smile, yet you'll believe him on the most important stuff. "There's no collusion with Russia" - "I had no knowledge of the payment" - "I never had sex with Daniels" - Two of those are an absolute lie. Many Trump supporters don't care that he lies, will excuse absolutely everything, including the obvious lies, but then go to hysterical extremes in concocting some bizarre conspiracy theory as to how Clinton and Obama and Soros, and Lynch, and Stark, and whomever, all conspired (in an election everyone thought Hillary would win) to frame Trump - when the much more plausible answer is that Trump is simply - once again - lying.
That was funny. From what we are seeing lately, there is a conspiracy.
Since there are no charges of a non existent crime brought against anyone.
Just some old parking tickets.
Anyway, another day, another proven lie by a president who does nothing but lie. Why Melania, who seems like a good person, hasn't left Trump by now is totally beyond me. How much humiliation can a dignified woman like her take?
Coz she's strong and knows he's the real deal?
Avenatti - the man whom you deride as knowing less than you about the law, is surely referencing lies the president told to officials regarding the payment, including officials in Delaware, where the LLC might've been set-up, whether Trump told Cohen to lie to the FBI about where the payment came from (conspiring to defraud the government, campaign finance law violations, and possible witness tampering) - THOSE are the lies that implicate the law, and those are the instances that Avenatti would have far more information about than you. He is most assuredly NOT stating that Trump telling reporters he knew nothing of it on AF1 is a felony.
Ya right, the guy is an ambulance chaser.
Bragging about getting a job with PNN when this is over.
The crimes committed have been by the Govt. Not the Trump admin.
But, despite your "nothing Trump does bothers me" approach, you are incorrect as to why this is news. It is not news because Trump used a porn star like a piece of meat, we all know that's his M.O. you people have accepted it as "fine" so long as he continues to piss of liberals. You've made your peace with it.
Yeah, so what?
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: burgerbuddy
$35k a month? There goes the whole wire fraud theory
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Scrubdog
Once again..Mueller must PROVE payments were structured to get around laws. AND HE MUST convince 67 senators of this. Unless he offers real proof that aint happening Perry Mason
Cohen will rat out Trump and tell Mueller that Trump told him to lie to the FBI about the payments. There's your illegal act.
It's not about the payment per se, it's the lying about it to the feds.
originally posted by: gariac
originally posted by: Justso
a reply to: Willtell
No one, I repeat, no one voted for Trump based on his morality and good looks.
Most voters just didn't want Hillary.
Trump's immorality had been in the tabloids for more than 20 years. He's a pig. This is not news - nor against the law.
He lied to the press-as he has about everything-except his sick love of Ivanka-so, I'd rather he just keep lying-as long as he continues to do what's best for the country after years of degradation from previous administrations-who lied, too, by the way.
Weak dollar. An administration with 80% of the cabinet criminals. We can do far better. We have done far better.
Hopefully Trump will resign and spare us the impeachment.
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Scrubdog
Brian Williams of MSNBC says it's unraveling?
Trump may as well just resign
Brian Williams was there in Stormy's room hiding behind the stripper pole in hot pants, photoshop at 10:00.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
a reply to: Scrubdog
Look at all the pretty stars lined-up above your post. And yet your post contains not a shred of any of the real issues, and serves as nothing more than a "So a president nailed a porn star 12 years ago with a new wife and newborn at home, paid her at the time, so what? Happens all the time ..." Except it doesn't, other than with this president.
How emotional.
Yeah probably does all the time, in Hollywood.
Trump has been heavily financially involved with Russia for over a decade. The odds that he isn't compromised by the Kremlin are extremely low. One doesn't do business with the Russian mob and "come out ahead." That is, unless one has something to offer, such as "I won't enforce economic sanctions against Russia, nor ever cross Putin ..."
One thing about that is that you need proof.
It is noteworthy that it doesn't bother many Trump supporters that the president on a weekly basis proves he lies like most people smile, yet you'll believe him on the most important stuff. "There's no collusion with Russia" - "I had no knowledge of the payment" - "I never had sex with Daniels" - Two of those are an absolute lie. Many Trump supporters don't care that he lies, will excuse absolutely everything, including the obvious lies, but then go to hysterical extremes in concocting some bizarre conspiracy theory as to how Clinton and Obama and Soros, and Lynch, and Stark, and whomever, all conspired (in an election everyone thought Hillary would win) to frame Trump - when the much more plausible answer is that Trump is simply - once again - lying.
That was funny. From what we are seeing lately, there is a conspiracy.
Since there are no charges of a non existent crime brought against anyone.
Just some old parking tickets.
Anyway, another day, another proven lie by a president who does nothing but lie. Why Melania, who seems like a good person, hasn't left Trump by now is totally beyond me. How much humiliation can a dignified woman like her take?
Coz she's strong and knows he's the real deal?
Avenatti - the man whom you deride as knowing less than you about the law, is surely referencing lies the president told to officials regarding the payment, including officials in Delaware, where the LLC might've been set-up, whether Trump told Cohen to lie to the FBI about where the payment came from (conspiring to defraud the government, campaign finance law violations, and possible witness tampering) - THOSE are the lies that implicate the law, and those are the instances that Avenatti would have far more information about than you. He is most assuredly NOT stating that Trump telling reporters he knew nothing of it on AF1 is a felony.
Ya right, the guy is an ambulance chaser.
Bragging about getting a job with PNN when this is over.
The crimes committed have been by the Govt. Not the Trump admin.
But, despite your "nothing Trump does bothers me" approach, you are incorrect as to why this is news. It is not news because Trump used a porn star like a piece of meat, we all know that's his M.O. you people have accepted it as "fine" so long as he continues to piss of liberals. You've made your peace with it.
Yeah, so what?
In order:
It doesn't bother you that Trump will screw anything that agrees to lay him, especially when money is to be made, fine.
Proof- His own friggin' kid bragging that they get most of the money they need for financing out of Russia, and the fact that a Russian oligarch paid 2x the assessed value of this Florida property - a common practice among people wanting to launder "too much cash." My statement was he's "been involved" with Russian oligarchs for a decade - that would be sufficient "proof" for this purpose, Mueller will have much much more, as would the tax returns, which we haven't seen, for a reason.
Melania: Evidently has a strong stomach, and knows her "husband" is the "real deal" serial sport-sex star. Hey, maybe she's in it for the money, too. I have always liked Melania, I have thought she's a strong independent woman who handles herself well. I am not some person who must hate everything associated with Trump, unlike many of the Obama opposition that had to spread it to his wife. But, I suppose she's just in it for the money. Not sure what you're referring to as "the real deal" - "real deal" "men" in my area of the world don't cheat on their wives, tell the truth, treat women well, but that's just me.
There are no charges because the investigation isn't over yet, no matter how many times Trump tells us there is no collusion, it doesn't make it true. I don't know Trump's involvement with Russia, nor do you. I can't say he had a deal with Russia, and you can't say that he didn't. I can point to the fact that he's done exactly nothing to "offend" Russia in office, including refusing to enforce sanctions, and that makes someone's "common sense" meter pop a little.
And we end where Trumpers always end, it's all the government out to get Trump, they are the ones committing crimes, despite the fact that multiple judges have signed off on all the warrants, that Mueller is as straight an arrow as America possesses, that several Trump associates can't speak to the FBI without lying and thus getting themselves charged, and Cohen taking the 5th, it is the government that is the criminal enterprise.
It has to be, right?
Because we know Trump can do no wrong.
When he bragged he could go out and shoot someone in Times Square and his supporters would love him more, he was referring to you. Unbeknownst to you, he was mocking you. Saying he could do literally anything and you'd support him. It is noteworthy, because for one moment in time, he told the truth.
originally posted by: Gothmog
originally posted by: Pyle
originally posted by: Urantia1111
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Nor a moral one either. Right? Why lie about it though? Habit?
There is no legal mandate to ever tell the media anything, truth or otherwise.
I don't think Avenatti was talking about Trump's public lies, though there are many of them. He's smarter than that.
He banged a porn star. Cool by me, but not everyone.
If you could hide that very personal part of your life, you would, especially if youre a famous celebrity and businessman. He could and did.
I have no problem with that.
Why dont you post that list of everyone youve slept with? No morals?
Most people I have talked to do give a damn about the sex but the possible use of campaign funds before the election to hide it.
Got proof of using campaign funds ?
No , I didnt think so
So , you listen to other people for your guidance
Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see
possible
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Pyle
But it doesn't make them illegal either. Mueller has to PROVE that A. An illegal act was commited
B. Trump was aware of it and complicit in it
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
a reply to: Pyle
But it doesn't make them illegal either. Mueller has to PROVE that A. An illegal act was commited
B. Trump was aware of it and complicit in it
originally posted by: gariac
originally posted by: xuenchen
The money was probably billed as "fees" for "services"
😎
And Cohen was on "retainer".
Then Trump is back to being a felon again. The money must be designated as payback for the payoff.
So now that we know for sure that Trump has unprotected sex with porn stars, are we really to believe that he is a germophobe? Hardly! Thus the pee tape is looking more likely all the time. No wonder Trump is Putin's little bitch. The Kompromat is total.