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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder what will be Giuliani's fate now that he has spilled the beans?
Rudy's smarter than to have made this statement without prior discussion with all relevant parties.
Lmfao, this is rich coming from you of all people.
originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: burdman30ott6
So you justify more sleazy lies of Trump
nothing new
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder what will be Giuliani's fate now that he has spilled the beans?
Rudy's smarter than to have made this statement without prior discussion with all relevant parties.
originally posted by: Admitted
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder what will be Giuliani's fate now that he has spilled the beans?
Rudy's smarter than to have made this statement without prior discussion with all relevant parties.
I have to think that this "revelation" must have been coming out from somewhere anyway and Rudy got ahead of it. He's no idiot, for sure. It wasn't a slip of the tongue.
originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: whyamIhere
People have jobs.
The economy is coming back.
I don't give freshly dipped Havana who anyone sleeps with.
I don't either. It's the lyin that matters. Remember what they did to slick willy for lyin. Is Trump above the law?
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Nor a moral one either. Right? Why lie about it though? Habit?
There is no legal mandate to ever tell the media anything, truth or otherwise.
I don't think Avenatti was talking about Trump's public lies, though there are many of them. He's smarter than that.
originally posted by: babybunnies
Actually, Giuliani said that the payments happened "over a few months".
If this was done to avoid having to report bank transfers over $10,000, then yes, this is absolutely a crime, and a FEDERAL one, at that.
It's called WIRE FRAUD. And if it was spread over 13 payments, that's 13 counts of a Federal crime.
Each count carries potentially 20 years in prison and $250,000 fine.
www.greenspunlaw.com...
"A person charged with wire fraud can face a separate charge for each act of fraud. For a single conviction of wire fraud, you could face the following penalties: Prison sentence of up to 20 years. Fines not exceeding $250,000"
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
I'm not posting this for the sake of this admission, purely because I've not veered from a "he screwed a whore 12 years ago, who cares?" position on the topic. I am posting this, however, to draw attention to the absolute self aggrandizing jackass tabloid chaser Stormy Daniels hired as her attorney. Alongside the self important, arrogance of the American media.
Trump told reporters several weeks ago that he didn't know about the $130,000 payment to Daniels as part of a nondisclosure agreement she signed days before the 2016 presidential election.
Asked aboard Air Force One whether he knew about the payment, Trump said flatly: "No." Trump also said he didn't know why Cohen had made the payment or where he got the money.
Daniels' lawyer's comment...
Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, called the comment "a stunning revelation."
"Mr. Trump evidently has participated in a felony and there must be serious consequences for his conduct and his lies and deception to the American people," he said.
WHAT? He did what now? A felony? My God, what a legally clueless arsehole you are, sir. Some half-a-hey-how-you-doin reporter aboard Air Force One is not a judge, Member of Congress, or Special Counsel. There is no legal mandate to ever tell the media anything, truth or otherwise. If I wanted to call up the local newspaper tomorrow and fabricate a story about monkeys flying out of my hind end, it's 100% on them if they're desperate and stupid enough to print it as truth.
What arrogance! This imbecile lawyer is the reason the media in the USA consider themselves to be gods, above reproach, somehow authorized to pick and choose what they report and spin it in a way to ensure it is viewed as either truth or fiction depending on their whims, but this idjit thinks it's a felony to off handedly dismiss any question one of their member's asks with less than a truthful, serious answer? Oh God, everything wrong with the legal profession and the US media rolled up in the same ZigZag paper right there.
originally posted by: babybunnies
Actually, Giuliani said that the payments happened "over a few months".
If this was done to avoid having to report bank transfers over $10,000, then yes, this is absolutely a crime, and a FEDERAL one, at that.
It's called WIRE FRAUD. And if it was spread over 13 payments, that's 13 counts of a Federal crime.
Each count carries potentially 20 years in prison and $250,000 fine.
if it's shown this was 13 payments of $10,000 each rather than 1 payment of $130,000 that was reported (it obviously wasn't), then it's definitely time to be talking about impeachment.
www.greenspunlaw.com...
"A person charged with wire fraud can face a separate charge for each act of fraud. For a single conviction of wire fraud, you could face the following penalties: Prison sentence of up to 20 years. Fines not exceeding $250,000"
The elements of a claim for wire fraud are very similar to those of mail fraud. You could be charged with wire fraud if the following four elements of the crime are established:
You voluntarily or intentionally participated in or devised a scheme to defraud someone of money or other valuables.You did so with the intent to defraud the person.It was reasonably foreseeable that interstate wire communications would be used.Interstate wire communications were in fact used in the scheme.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
originally posted by: babybunnies
Actually, Giuliani said that the payments happened "over a few months".
If this was done to avoid having to report bank transfers over $10,000, then yes, this is absolutely a crime, and a FEDERAL one, at that.
It's called WIRE FRAUD. And if it was spread over 13 payments, that's 13 counts of a Federal crime.
Each count carries potentially 20 years in prison and $250,000 fine.
www.greenspunlaw.com...
"A person charged with wire fraud can face a separate charge for each act of fraud. For a single conviction of wire fraud, you could face the following penalties: Prison sentence of up to 20 years. Fines not exceeding $250,000"
Once again..Mueller has to offer PROOF that this was the reason for spreading out payments. Short of video or audiotape that ain't happening