Rudy Giuliani Admits Trump Repaid Cohen

a reply to: Erno86

Deary me! All these false statements!

Russia has everything to do with Mueller's investigation

What does Russian invovlement in the 2016 elections have to do with money laundering in association with Ukranian nationals over a decade ago?

What does Russian involvement in the 2016 election have to do with an accused affair with a porn star 12 years ago?

TheRedneck

a reply to: Erno86

Oh my mistake, please link Stormy and manaforts charges to Russia, I'm waiting.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I still would have voted for him, and in 2020 I'll probably vote for him again unless someone better runs.

Who'll be better? A successful businessman who isn't the NWO's shill, knows how to handle the media and triggers snowflakes. We already have the best.

Even Dershowitz today said Giuliani is doing Trump a disservice...www.politico.com...

But it seems to me nobody who is an experienced lawyer like Giuliani would exercise such lawyerly public folly. Giuliani knows just what he’s doing---helping put a nail in Trump’s political and legal coffin.

Don’t forget Giuliani is a 911 conspirator. He quickly got rid of the debris from the falling buildings and lied about his knowledge of the buildings fall.

Trump is being played like a fiddle.

a reply to: TheRedneck


Have you heard? Some of the guidelines laid out for Mueller's investigation were VERBAL...not written.
theconservativetreehouse.com... -instructions/

Who knows what Rod Rosenstein authorized Bob Mueller to investigate? Could be Anything.

a reply to: carewemust

Ho

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Shee-ut!

This is the first time I actually read the second document (at least the part that wasn't redacted, which was the introductory paragraph).

Based on the analysis in that link you provided (thank you!) and a couple other pages on that site, it sounds like Rosenstein found himself caught in his own web and is using Mueller as a 'fixer' (where have we heard that term before?) to try and get him out of trouble. That clearly explains why he has been stalling Congress about providing the unredacted order.

At this point, I think we need either a higher Federal court (Supreme Court?) or Congress to investigate this and bring up the issues this is causing. A secret investigation? Orders that even Congress can't see? Expanding an investigation by voice instructions? Abuse of the FISA program to intentionally spy on American citizens over political differences?

That literally sounds like something even Russia would choke on... maybe something that we would hear about happening in North Korea! Forget collusion with Russia... how about collusion with Mueller and Rosenstein? Where the holy Hades is Jeff Sessions?

When is that next OIG report out? That may be our only hope... either that or Congress actually impeach Rosenstein and take control of the FBI. A Supreme Court case would take far too long.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

OIG Report on FBI's handling of Hillary and Hillary's (alleged) crimes, was last scheduled to be released, on or before May 7th. But the OIG found additional Hillary info to investigate, which has delayed the report. There is no updated Time of Completion estimate.

a reply to: carewemust

Somewhere I had heard a rumor this next report would not be kind to Mueller... but that was just a rumor and I never looked deeper. At the time, I already knew Mueller was up to something, but I didn't realize the rabbit hole would open into an underground Mara Lago!

Even as much as I suspected there was a ton of dirt lying underneath the FBI, I never thought I would be seeing corruption that would make Kim Jong Un turn green with jealousy... the deep state is certainly established well and the swamp just got a lot deeper.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Mueller is under investigation by a committee for his role in the Uranium One scandal. Hillary Clinton personally asked Bob Mueller to deliver a "sample" of highly enriched Uranium to Russia. I guess this was to prove the purity, and set a price.

Source: www.thenewamerican.com...

Maybe Special Counsel Mueller believes that if he can have President Trump removed, the U-1 investigation will stop? I don't think so.

a reply to: carewemust

Well, I am convinced that the purpose of all these shenanigans is to protect the Clintons. Every move that has been made thus far serves that purpose. For me, it was evident from the moment Mueller was assigned with a scope that excluded anyone other than Trump associates.

The one thing I can't understand yet is why. Just what power does Hillary Clinton hold over the rest of the government that would cause them to take such risks for her? A lot of the corruption could be dismissed as simply one party with an agenda pleasing to those with money, such as Brazil funneling questions to Clinton during a debate, or even the creation of the Steele dossier and it's subsequent use against Carter Page to get surveillance on Trump indirectly. But some of these moves seems to actually harm the Democratic Party in order to profit Clinton!

Could it be something as simple as Clinton owning the DNC? I know she was at one time financing it. But George Soros is also claimed to be financially blessing them with his considerable wealth. So why in the world would so many be so willing to fall on their own swords so happily for the sake of one woman?

I just can't wrap my head around it.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Admitted

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: burdman30ott6

He paid a porn star some cash to shut her up about something that happened a decade ago.

I still would have voted for him, and in 2020 I'll probably vote for him again unless someone better runs.

He paid a porn star so that you, and the rest of us, wouldn't hear about something from his past. He paid to hide something about himself from us. This is just one thing, and one thing I don't much care about.

The hiding, lying, and paying large sums of money to do so...I DO care about.

How can you vote for that?

I voted for it and I will again

originally posted by: TheOnlyBilko

originally posted by: Admitted

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: burdman30ott6

He paid a porn star some cash to shut her up about something that happened a decade ago.

I still would have voted for him, and in 2020 I'll probably vote for him again unless someone better runs.

He paid a porn star so that you, and the rest of us, wouldn't hear about something from his past. He paid to hide something about himself from us. This is just one thing, and one thing I don't much care about.

The hiding, lying, and paying large sums of money to do so...I DO care about.

How can you vote for that?

I voted for it and I will again

It's quite funny to listen to these fools convince themselves that knowing about Trump being a playboy would have made the slightest difference. It's almost as if they think everyone didn't know anyway. I don't know what they expected - maybe for Trump to have listed all the women he slept with???

Even funnier is that liberals all of a sudden embrace christian conservative values when it suits and then go back to being morally bankrupt when it suits.

Perhaps using their own language might help... Trump didn't intend to break campaign finance laws and what difference does it make now anyway.

a reply to: TheRedneck

I think it was Obama many of them worshipped, and this was his will do let it be done.

a reply to: Willtell

So far all your liberal Trump hating predictions have fallen flat, add this to that list.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Erno86

Deary me! All these false statements!

Russia has everything to do with Mueller's investigation

What does Russian invovlement in the 2016 elections have to do with money laundering in association with Ukranian nationals over a decade ago?

What does Russian involvement in the 2016 election have to do with an accused affair with a porn star 12 years ago?

TheRedneck

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"Michael Cohen has spent much of his personal and professional life with immigrants from Russia and Ukraine. His father-in-law, who helped establish him in the taxi business, was born in Ukraine, as was one of Mr. Cohen's partners in that industry, another partner was Russian.

And Mr. Cohen used his connections in the region when scouting business opportunities for Mr. Trump in former Soviet Republics. More recently, Mr. Cohen and his father-in-law lent more than $25 million to a Ukrainian businessman who has a checkered financial record and a history of defaulting on loans.

And Mr. Cohen long held a small stake in his uncle's catering hall, which was frequented by Russian and Italian mobsters.

The search warrants of Mr. Cohen's home, his office and a hotel room, where he was staying, sought documents related to Mr. Cohen's business associates, among other things.

Mr. Trump's lawyers are resigned to the strong possibility that the investigation of Mr. Cohen's businesses could lead him to cooperate with federal prosecutors."

quote: www.nytimes.com...

Just the facts sir...just the facts.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Willtell

So far all your liberal Trump hating predictions have fallen flat, add this to that list.

You are really brainwashed so much into then left/right dogma paradigm you’re confused.

My take on Trump in this thread is from a deep state perspective, not the left/right issue.

Here is my post.

But it seems to me nobody who is an experienced lawyer like Giuliani would exercise such lawyerly public folly. Giuliani knows just what he’s doing---helping put a nail in Trump’s political and legal coffin. Don’t forget Giuliani is a 911 conspirator. He quickly got rid of the debris from the falling buildings and lied about his knowledge of the buildings fall. Trump is being played like a fiddle.

Why don't you read posts rather than always jumping to the liberal/right-wing dogfight?

a reply to: Erno86

Care to point out what in that long essay of irrelevancy is illegal?

TheRedneck

a reply to: Erno86

Just the facts sir...just the facts.

That really doesn't square with this that you quoted...

Richard Cohen

Who is that?

Just the facts and all....

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Erno86

Just the facts sir...just the facts.

That really doesn't square with this that you quoted...

Richard Cohen

Who is that?

Just the facts and all....

My bad...Michael Cohen instead of Richard.

a reply to: Erno86

My bad...Michael Cohen instead of Richard.

I'm glad you're not Robert Mueller... and so is Richard Cohen.

TheRedneck