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Hillary says.. Being a Capitalist ‘Probably’ Hurt Me in Primary Because Many Democrats Are Socia

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posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: CB328

There is absolutely nothing moral about socialism.

It's nothing, but greed and materialism by dictatorial power.




posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Very interesting... are the battle lines being drawn for the left?

I've been thinking in terms of Team Hillary vs Team Obama, and wondering if I should be thinking in terms of "Onward Together" vs "Organizing for Action." But maybe it will be Capitalist vs Socialist.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:31 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

It's a battle socialists would lose.

Socialists can't do anything without bribing elected officials to GIVE them things they can't earn on their own.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:35 PM
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I think Hillary has now officially blamed everyone except herself.
Deplorables
Russians
Men
White people
White men
The media
Aliens!?!
And now her own parties supporters

I look forward to the chuckles that her next “poor me I was cheated” bs rant brings.



edit on 2/5/2018 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)

edit on 2/5/2018 by IkNOwSTuff because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Boadicea

It's a battle socialists would lose.

Socialists can't do anything without bribing elected officials to GIVE them things they can't earn on their own.


Good point. Capitalists are prepared to work for what they have/want... so is the working class. They don't want a handout, but they're tired of losing ground to this protected class and that special interest group. And all while the government critters get richer and richer.

This may very well be brilliant on Hillary's part. She's speaking of socialists, but she's appealing to the working class that once voted for Bill and more recently voted for Trump. Divide-and-conquer within the party.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: CB328

Has socialism ever brought about equality or has it only ever changed the power structure to government non-government? Im well aware some don't care as long as it takes away from those they despise, that is until they're on their last ration looking at a government with excess. Socialism turns into a monarchial type dictatorships or communism with time.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:56 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

She'll blame Planned Parenthood soon enough.

Watch for it.

😃



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

She's BACK !!

((February 2, 2018 ))
Hillary Has Sent Over $1 Million From Onward Together to Other ‘Resistance’ Groups

🎁📣😳




posted on May, 2 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

wow! What is this now?... excuse #999,456?

She is STILL trying to find excuses? She must get no sleep, trying so hard to come up with so many excuses.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Boadicea

She's BACK !!

((February 2, 2018 ))
Hillary Has Sent Over $1 Million From Onward Together to Other ‘Resistance’ Groups

🎁📣😳



I'm really looking forward to watching this play out... I think. For once I don't think we're the ones who really need to be worried about what Hillary's up to. I think Team Obama does though. Tee hee hee!



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: CB328


She's not a capitalist, she's a crook!

What's the difference, there is none.

Immoral people tend towards capitalism, moral people tend towards socialism, it's not rocket science.

Oh, and boat people don't come from socialist countries, that was a stupid post.

You had better do some research . Perhaps , just a "small" bit . Do the research on history of the countries that started out Socialist. Then became monsters when they ran out of other folks' money.
Then you can come back and edit out that post
Denying ignorance



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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She is trying everything now, now trying to blame "Democratic Socialist" for her loss, She and the majority of people have no idea what Socialism actually is



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

She needs to start being nice to her base because we really want her to run again.



Hillary / Jeb 2020

The Dream Team!



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: xuenchen

I have it on good authority that the left is NOT a bunch of socialists. Torn from these very pages here on ATS. That's how I know it's true.


It all depends on what one's definition of "socialism" is.

For instance, no liberal that I know wants the government to take over private commerce and property completely.

However, Adam Smith himself wrote that capitalism could not work unless it was under (in the language of the day) a "heavy government regulation" because the wealthy would soon collude and form monopolies, growing companies beyond competition inherent in making capitalism work, and wrest control of the government on the side of ownership, which is seen today.

So, if one defines capitalism as Adam Smith did, one with active government involvement ensuring competition, meaning an active anti-trust division of DOJ (not allowing all airlines to merge, not allowing XFinity to monopolize cable, now allowing Google to control searches, etc), if one had a strong union relations board, which backed unions, giving workers the power to organize that Adam Smith envisioned, competition for workers, basic minimum wages (living minimum wages), if one kept corporate money out of politics, such that money didn't equal speech, and didn't allow the power imbalance between money and voters to take hold, it would be a system much more in-line with what Adam Smith envisioned.

But, many of these things are castigated as "anti-business" by corporate apologists, same as regulation of the environment, which costs a fortune to clean up - that fortune paid for by the tax payers and not the polluter, is seen as "anti-capitalism" or "anti-business" - as if they're the same thing. They are not. Regulations are absolutely necessary unless you want to find yourself working within a modern version of feudal Europe within 2 generations (we're already 2 generations into it with "trickle down, Citizens' United, and the "all regulations are bad" mantra of the administration.

The people in Iowa who say they are socialists likely don't know what true socialism, or true capitalism - as envisioned by Adam Smith - entail. Besides, Hillary knew she would be running for president, knew there'd be questions, and likely would've had less trouble with the question had she not gone to Goldman Sachs and been paid $250,000.

Sanders is a Democratic socialist, but not that far from just a regular "New Deal" Democrat, one who would've been right at home in the 60s with the GI bill, higher wages, higher taxes on the richest of Americans, and staggering economic growth.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
Bernie Sanders upon reading Hillary's statement...


The Democrat's are splitting into a 3rd party, there is a large section of progressives lead by Jimmy Dore and Secular Talk who are no longer interested in the Democrats and have a huge following.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

He won’t do his own research. He wants someone else’s research.



posted on May, 2 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: neo96

She just got rich off of Bill.


Were they stuck butt to butt?



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:04 AM
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Excuse number one hundr.....two hundre.....wait, two hundred and fif.....crap......Here's another excuse for losing the presidency.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Ah HA! So she DOES know what the problem is!

Good! I mean, I doubt she will shuffle off and get completely out of the way (despite the fact that she can, now she has made that statement, never win a Presidency as a Democrat). That being said, if she was honest about her beliefs as a political entity, then she would just cross the room and sit with the oil tycoons in the Republican Party, and maybe get in with them. They LOVE a dirty crook in an expensive suit, since self love is important to them.



posted on May, 3 2018 @ 09:01 AM
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originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: xuenchen

Ah HA! So she DOES know what the problem is!

Good! I mean, I doubt she will shuffle off and get completely out of the way (despite the fact that she can, now she has made that statement, never win a Presidency as a Democrat). That being said, if she was honest about her beliefs as a political entity, then she would just cross the room and sit with the oil tycoons in the Republican Party, and maybe get in with them. They LOVE a dirty crook in an expensive suit, since self love is important to them.




So , oil tycoons do not "lobby" Dems ?
You are so very out of touch and out of place on US politics....



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