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originally posted by: LairdTK2
a reply to: worldstarcountry
I'm not actually interested in what Trump has or hasn't done... no one should be nominated for the peace prize by threatening to kill thousands with the most destructive weapons in extistence
That isn't a peacful act ... it is a threat of greater aggression!
Krazy Kim has actually acted more peaceful by standing down...
A peace prize should be awarded for peaceful actions that is all im pointing out
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: dug88
America wouldn't be winning the peace prize...Trump would be and he has done more for peace than any President since the Korean War began. I know it would hurt, but what did Obama do to win it other than being born black?
At what point did I agree Obama should've gotten one either? Pretty sure I mentioned how zero us presidents really deserve one.
I just don't feel the leader of the biggest warmongering nation on the planet deserves one period. I mean how many wars are you still currently engaged in? Maybe if trump returned every single one of your soldiers to america and shut down America's foreign military bases I'd agree he deserves it but as the leader of your country he continues to perpetuate America's foreign occupation of other countries.
I think you all need to look up the definition of peace. I just feel like someone receiving the Nobel peace prize should have brought about peace in some way. Continuing wars is kinda the opposite of that.
originally posted by: babybunnies
They couldn't get a SINGLE Democrat to sign on to this - did they even ask anyone?
Nominating the head of your own party for something like this is ridiculous.
Donald Trump himself claims "What did I have to do with peace? Only EVERYTHING"
Er, South Korea, China, and Russia might all have something to say about that. Claiming 100% of the credit for peace w North Norea is typical snake oil salesman Donald Trump on full display.
He thinks a few days of name calling on twitter was enough to get Kim Jong Un to come to peace talks?
Er, Kim Jong Un himself might have a few things to say about that, and it remains to be seen if this is actually a real thing. If it isn't, Trump will have MASSIVE egg on his face.
Lol hmmmm well my phone was made in Korea, my computer was made in Japan, the majority of things I own were.made in China or india. Where does the us come into this?
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: xuenchen
Unlike Obama, who oversaw the destruction of an additional three new nations during his reign, Trump has not actually initiated a single new campaign. He simply delegated to the military to finish what was started before him. On the flip side, it is thanks to Donald Trump that the North Korean leader finally had enough fear put into him to finally negotiate a peace settlement with their southern cousins.
It is for these reasons, I sincerely believe that Donal Trump is able to legitimately claim this award.
Really?? Sometimes I wonder if I live in the same world as other people.
I'm just not even gonna bother...what's the point?
Sometimes, I really wish I could be that delusional. I'd probably be happier.
Great.. while you are at it dont bother with needless, ridiculous replies.
Dont worry, Pelosi, Clinton and Pocahontas will be along soon to reassure you of your wet dreams.... and that tax increase
Lol like idiotic responses like that? Yup im just sitting around for your politicians and a long dead native to reassure me of my wet dreams. Do you people actually think at all any more or do you just spout whatever stupid # happens to pop into your head at the time?
I could give a # which idiot you people vote in for your presidency. America's been run by the military and corporations for years.
I really miss the days when this site was about denying ignorance instead of a big #ing circle jerk seeing who can say the stupidest #.
I just can't understand what it is about Americans that makes them think they're the center of the world and that everything revolves around them and their politics. You guys are only 300 million or so people out of 7 billion. You're not even close to the majority of the world let alone the center of it. You guys may cause the most # in the world but it hardly revolves around you. You'd think people who frequent a website whose motto is to deny ignorance would understand that. But this thread and just about everything to do with America on here is full of some of the most ignorant and arrogant # i've ever read.
I always used to think the media exaggerated just how utterly ridiculous people are there. The last year and a half of people on ATS has shown me of anything it's the opposite.
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: dug88
Pretty sure the United States population is above 300million... while I do think they revolve a little around themselves a bit, you cant deny their economy, technology, media, military and western way of life dominates the world for the better. I mean, imagine if China was the superpower.
See this right here...that....no..it really doesn't. You seem to think your culture and way of life dominate the world...they don't...you try and push that # on the world it's true. The only part of that that's accurate is your military. Your economy is a joke. How many of those 300 million people actually have a decent quality of life?
American culture is not the culture of the rest of the world. It's not even the culture of your two closest neighbours. Canada and Mexico are actually fairly different than America in many ways. Going down to america was like going into some back ass third world country. I mean all i know is we donmt have hundreds of miles of nothing but anti-meth and suicide billboards interspersed with towns of multiple churches and fastfood places and a gas station. The rest of the world is fairly different too. This is what bugs me. The complete and total ignorance to the rest of the world.
There's not really much excuse for it...it's pretty easy to interact with people from other places in the world these days. Maybe try it and you'd see for yourself just how different other places are to you.
You guys all need a healthy attitude adjustment and to really understand most of the world would be better off without America's influence and you guys need to fix your own problems before continuing to try and dominate the world. Because the world has gone past you guys while you sit here and argue about inane bull# and Pat yourselves on the the back for being so great.
Maybe also take a look at the history of things America has done to the world and you'd maybe understand why many many people would really rather if America would just # right off. You guys really aren't the saviours and heroes you think you are. You guys are an evil empire oppressing the world.
originally posted by: dug88
originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: dug88
Look you don't like everything that the US has it's hands in, that's fine. Go checkout any disaster in the world and see who responded first and with most resources. Have an issue with the US, go look at pretty much every piece of tech you own and ask yourself what it would look like without the US being involved. All you and a lot of other people do is complain about how the US is everywhere, doing everything, but what I don't see is those people going through all their stuff and get rid of everything that was made possible because of the US.
My point is before you start to complain about the US, go look at everything the US has given you because of the culture that we foster here, or carry on and only look at the bad stuff. Just remember though without the US think about how bad those little issues that the world has would be?
Lol hmmmm well my phone was made in Korea, my computer was made in Japan, the majority of things I own were.made in China or india. Where does the us come into this?
Oh right you guys just killed net neutrality in your country. You just made website owners responsible for content hosted on their website. Currently the USA is not leading the world in scientific research, technological advancement or industry. Just what am I suppose to be thankful to the USA for? That oil from my country is sent across the border only to turn around, cross back and I have to pay an extra dollar more for 'imported gas' despite all said gas being produced and refined in my country because 'free trade'. That American companies are trying to force a pipeline through my province so they can profit while my home is polluted and destroyed? That you put tariffs on our lumber while forcing your NAFTA bull# on us? That I have to pay more for electricity because we ship 'excess' power across the border?
Seriously # you and # your country.
originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: dug88
Lol hmmmm well my phone was made in Korea, my computer was made in Japan, the majority of things I own were.made in China or india. Where does the us come into this?
Yep, made else where, but invented in the US. So take your anti-American attitude, and think about what you're saying before you type. Go check out exactly what was invented in America, and what America has done for the benefit of the world. Sure you might use the excuse of, "It's all about profit", but in the end you're still sitting there in front of a computer that was made possible by efforts that the US has made to advance the tech.
Weird part about this whole thing is, you still haven't made much of a case for Trump not to get the Peace Prize. One of the two parties at war have stated that Trump deserves it, and the other side is only working for peace because of what Trump has done. So what's your argument for him not getting one?
originally posted by: TinfoilTP
a reply to: xuenchen
Crayons are being squashed in frenzied doodles.
Hugging closets are overflowing.
Safe spaces bursting at the seams.
There are not enough Depends adult diapers to go around.
The magnitude of this winning by Trump is YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: DBCowboy
Then the Nobel for Trump is just as meaningless as Obama's prize.
Don't get me wrong, if he can pull a peace deal out of the Korean peninsula, then I would think he deserved it.
But he hasn't yet.
So far, it's just talk. And the prize for just talking is a Pulitzer, or an Oscar, or an Emmy.
I say wait for results, not promises.
Political promises have as much weight and value as a Taco Bell fart.
I agree and apologize for any trouble that may cause for you.
Obama's peace prize was completely empty and Obama even hinted at just that in his acceptance speech. The Nobel PP is a political award. It does not indicate the recipient actually did anything to bring about peace.
If it is important to people, give the PP to Trump. Doesn't affect me one way or the other. But if he did not play a huge role in pushing towards peace, it seems like nothing more than a participation award.
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Meanwhile as Trump gets nominated for brokering peace in NK (supposedly) we are bombing the hell out of Syria and on the brink of war based on Trump's decision in that part of the world. How can you be nominated for a "peace" prize while at the same time ordering the bombing of countries? Seems a bit hypocritical of the committee doesn't it? Or maybe they're ignorant.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: xuenchen
I think they know when September is. I think they either don't know that the Nobel Prize Committee only accepts nominations between September and February; or they do know that and they just don't care. They just want the immediate political points for pretty much doing nothing.