originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Asktheanimals infolurker
I'm not familiar with laws in NY, however from my minimal knowledge, I do know they are very strict and possibly violating the 2nd.
Given the absence of statutes, I'm reserving judgement. It sounds like a load of BS>
Aside from when I was in the Army, I’ve lived here my whole life. It’s almost like a parallel universe compared to when I was a kid. Though I grew
up in a fairly rural area upstate and it was as common to see a cow walk through the practice fields after escaping from the dairy farm next to the
school as it was rifles and shotguns hanging in racks in the back of pickup trucks. And that went for students and teachers. Particularly in the fall
when deer season opened.
Today,obviously, schools are all “gun free zones” (or as i call them ‘open season markets for murder’) but thugs took a nasty turn after Sandy
Hook. The legislature went into a late night session and literally around midnight, passed the SAFEAct and provisions such as the sale of “assault
weapons” went into effect immediately and any store carrying firearms was in for unholy hell when they unlocked the doors at 9am the following
morning. The firearms store near my house had to have the State Police come into the store the morning after this BS law went into effect because
people were literally fighting each other over who was there or in line first because what the store had in stock could still be sold. They did such
a shoddy rush job on the legislation that the police using 15 round magazines in their service weapons were actually in violation of the law. It
originally stated that magazine capacity was limited to 7 rounds. Have you ever seen a 7 round magazine? Neither have I. Anyone who possessed what the
state designated as an assault rifle had 90 days to register it with the state, turn it in or sell it to an out of state buyer. Same thing for
magazines that can hold more than 7 rounds! They later amended the law to let LEO’s use the magazines intended for their service weapons and changed
the magazine capacity from 7 to 10 round mags for civilians but we weren’t allowed to load more than 7 rounds into the magazine. You seriously
can’t make up stuff this bat s# crazy. There was also a provision regarding background checks on ammo purchases and wanted possession of pistol ammo
illegal without a pistol permit. Which shows how retarded the legislators in NY are because there are many rifles that use pistol ammo. Hell, .22 ammo
could be considered pistol ammo and that was the first gun I learned how to shoot on at Boy Scout camp. It really sounds like a work of dystopian
fiction when I type it all out like this.
Aside from the statewide SAFEAct, NYC where the gentleman arrested in the OP lives, had even more strict firearms laws. It’s nearly impossible for a
civilian to obtain a handgun permit in NYC and oh also need a separate permit for rifles
and shotguns. And then there are the fees (hundreds of dollars for each permit) 2 passport sized photos, 17 pages of documentation and application and
that’s is you’ve never been charged with a crime. A misdemeanor that was dismissed or you were found not guilty? Papers please! Yup... you’ve
got to document it all. Then they want an original SS Card, NYS Drivers License, a utility bill is often requested and you can be denied a permit
without one and even though you haven’t bought a gun yet because of don’t have the permit, you need to pass a NICS check. There are a couple of
other things as well but I can’t remember off the top of my head and I’m on my phone at the moment so I will find the info and add a citation
Between this, my ever increasing property taxes with diminished returns on what we receive (all of the stuff the school supplied us when I was a kid
is now supplied by my wife and I and when they run low they call or email me asking for things like Kleenex and toilet paper. Seriously... I’ve
showed up at school with a huge bulk thing of toilet paper before because the class was out and I happened to pick up the phone tginkjngtgere was a
problem with one of the kids) and the botched medical marijuana legislation that finally passed but nobody can find a doctor who will prescribe it
because the state mkes them get a new certification to be able to prescribe something I can grow myself, but I digress... to sum it up, the sad and
sorry state of affairs in the state I grew up in and lived all my life (who the hell doesn’t enjoy being able to hike the High Peaks in the
Adirondack Mountains in the summer?) has led me to purchase 8 acres in Maine and then because it was so much less of an investment to buy a house that
was already there ( and in a far better school district to boot), that’s what we did. The only positive about living in the ‘Capital District’
is that when the market took a nosedive in 08/09, my house didn’t lose any value or equity so when I finish doing some minor work on it over the
summer and put it on the market, I’ll actually have enough money to pay off the mortgage in Maine. My In-Laws are both retired and have sold all but
one of their properties in D.C. and that condo is about to be listed and they will be year round residents of Maine as well and only a little under 2
hours from us so my daughter will get to see one set of grandparents pretty frequently.
But the real benefit of moving there is that they actually respect the Second Amendment. They passed a law in 2015 I think removing the requirement
for a permit to carry concealed aside from the normal spots like courthouses, schools etc... I can walk in with my Maine ID and walk out the door 20
min later with a new pistol. And I can grow my own medicine instead of being a slave to the pain management doctor and the pharmacy. I’m a little
sad that it came to this. But the benefits of making this move far outweigh any negatives or reservations I have.
ETA- citation on NYC firearms laws and requirements to obtain a permit. It made me throw up a little in my mouth having to type out the fact that the
City requires a permit in order to get access to a limited version of a constitutional right.
edit on 2-5-2018 by peter vlar because: (no