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posted on Apr, 29 2018 @ 08:33 AM
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originally posted by: grubblesnert
a reply to: rickymouse hey Rick, Thanks!! Keep it.


And the same to all the excellent responses




I found this while sorting my bookmarks. Something I read a while back in my studies. www.alzforum.org...

I have to state that what I know is from the work of others mostly, I do test things on myself to try to find if they are correct if possible. It is hard on the body though to be testing on myself so much. I have found that foods and meds that are said to block acetylcholine do make it more enjoyable, but now I am once again interested in very intense thinking to evaluate what I read. Also, boosting your ability to think all the time seems to make you a little less healthy. This is probably because when you do stuff involving exercise the neuroexcitement created by this boosting of acetylcholine too high temporarily causes muscle spasms when you do things. Sage increases acetylcholine and has an effect in the brain that increases memory retention and retreval. But it also can increase muscle spasms, it is not the best for people with epilepsy.

I give thanks to all the people who fund the research I read and those doing the research itself. I would not want to be stuck in a lab researching, it is too slow, I like to learn fast from reading hundreds of research articles done by others on a subject.




posted on Apr, 29 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

indeed



posted on Apr, 29 2018 @ 07:05 PM
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Check what I found on Yahoo... www.yahoo.com...

I can side track it, it is my thread.


That is the most ridiculous article I have seen, none of those foods are a problem if eaten moderately. In fact many are good for you. This person must be joking, I will never open an article like this again, I mean someone who says you cannot eat bacon should be banned from ever posting another article. Scroll through the list and be amazed at how many foods that can be healthy are on it, if moderation is observed. If you aren't eating cherries or grapes, you may eat candy or cake. If your eating a pickle you are not eating a twinky.

When you live to over fifty you should not be torturing yourself anymore. Moderation is the clue, don't eat that stuff every day.
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posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

That paper was interesting but I don't think it applies to Alzheimer's disease. The first example spoke about a neurotransmitter imbalance that was reversible and the second concerned a neuromuscular disease.

I think Alzheimer's disease actually causes the brain to deteriorate and is not reversible.



posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: rickymouse

That paper was interesting but I don't think it applies to Alzheimer's disease. The first example spoke about a neurotransmitter imbalance that was reversible and the second concerned a neuromuscular disease.

I think Alzheimer's disease actually causes the brain to deteriorate and is not reversible.


If you halt the progression of a disease the body may be able to heal itself. The brain has a reserve of stem cells but it can be depleted if overtaxed.

As with all scientific articles the application of the information has limitations or parameters. Our brains can recover from dips and jumps in neurotransmitter balance, it does every night. When we sleep the balance is altered on some. Somehow this is related to the circadian cycle, but some people do not have a problem with altering the timing while others do. I worked night shift for over a year, I had no noticeable problem after maybe two weeks of working, my whole sleep cycle was off though. That is one of the reasons why I do not always think all information and evidence about sleep time is correct. I also usually do best with around six hours of sleep a night. Now that I am getting older though or because I have altered my diet to a more natural one, I seem to do better if I go sleep before midnight.

The thing is that many many chemistries actually boost acetylcholine. Glyphosate and pesticides used on plants and grains permanently inhibit acetylcholinesterase which raise the acetylcholine. Then people need to take medicines to correct the problem, being permanently inhibited means the body has to start to create it from scratch so sometimes you need to take promotors to treate the inhibition of the ACHE. antidepressants and other cholinease inhibitorsto alter it back to normal. The government says that pesticides and glyphosate are safe but if they are, how come there are so many meds being given to people that would be a treatment for the pesticide/herbicide side effects.



posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 11:04 PM
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Hate to say it brother, but dementia isn't reversible at this point... its progressive

And unfortunately we don't know what Causes it either... so theres no preventative

No medication helps it... you can treat certain symptoms, but the difference is minor...

comfort measures is pretty much the only thing that we can do




posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: rickymouse

Hate to say it brother, but dementia isn't reversible at this point... its progressive

And unfortunately we don't know what Causes it either... so theres no preventative

No medication helps it... you can treat certain symptoms, but the difference is minor...

comfort measures is pretty much the only thing that we can do



I have read research that showed that some types of dementia can be put into remission. Maybe fifty research articles talking about slowing the decline. A couple did say they may be able to partially restore the brain, but not the lost memories. I do not know about those that say they can restore a brain. Once lost, I think it is gone.

I read research from all over the world, NHS and NIH are some of my favorite sources. WHO is good too. I also have lots of links to other organizations and research universities. Harvard is a good site too. Not much is happening with medical, they take a long time to fix wrong paths they are on. Finally they accepted that the meds they were using was making the alzheimer disease worse. They were chasing the wrong demon by blocking a protein, that protein was elevated in the brain to help to slow the progression.

You can slow the progression of certain dementias just by putting sage on your chicken and in your soups. www.sciencedaily.com... This herb could be possibly used in adjuvant therapy for alzheimer disease and dementia. 300 miligrams of sage is not a lot of sage. Too much sage can give a person spasmy muscles though.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

I have looked at lots of different chemistries that can help prevent or stop the progression of this disease. But people have quit eating these things, they mix too many spices and herbs together. Many of the cooking practices and combinations of foods years ago when I was young have chemistry that actually helped protect against alzheimer and dementia. There is way more dementias and alzheimers today than years ago.



posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 11:51 PM
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Well im glad to see they're working on it at least...

I don't trust Drug companies, and Let me tell ya, IF they truly are trying to find a fix, or even a way to slow the progression... they're taking their sweet F*****G time with it

I HATE this disease... and that is not a word i ever use... but in this case its warranted

They use tons of different kinds of meds for various symptoms, but again... nothing slows it in the real world

And though its wonderful to believe that something as simple as sage can help... it really doesn't unfortunately

I work in "heavens waiting room"... believe me... This disease needs to be eradicated as fast as possible

They should be putting Every resource they have into destroying it, or at least figuring out what causes it

In Canada they give us barely anything in health care... we scrape by while drug companies get rich basically testing their meds on the elderly.... i see it every day... Doc comes in.... this isn't working, lets try this one... over and over and over...until he/she finds something that has some slightly positive effect... but the fact remains, its progressive

These people who prevent the right kind of funding will be sorry one day when it effects them... and it will

The stats show it... almost half of the population will eventually end up with some form of Dementia

I pray im not one of them




posted on May, 1 2018 @ 12:15 AM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: rickymouse

Well im glad to see they're working on it at least...

I don't trust Drug companies, and Let me tell ya, IF they truly are trying to find a fix, or even a way to slow the progression... they're taking their sweet F*****G time with it

I HATE this disease... and that is not a word i ever use... but in this case its warranted

They use tons of different kinds of meds for various symptoms, but again... nothing slows it in the real world

And though its wonderful to believe that something as simple as sage can help... it really doesn't unfortunately

I work in "heavens waiting room"... believe me... This disease needs to be eradicated as fast as possible

They should be putting Every resource they have into destroying it, or at least figuring out what causes it

In Canada they give us barely anything in health care... we scrape by while drug companies get rich basically testing their meds on the elderly.... i see it every day... Doc comes in.... this isn't working, lets try this one... over and over and over...until he/she finds something that has some slightly positive effect... but the fact remains, its progressive

These people who prevent the right kind of funding will be sorry one day when it effects them... and it will

The stats show it... almost half of the population will eventually end up with some form of Dementia

I pray im not one of them



Many of the real research articles show that too much dopamine in the brain along with too little acetylcholine in the brain cause the problem. Dopamine can be neurotoxic if levels get too high. The issue is with correcting this issue and the answer is to lower the tyramines that increase dopamine levels. The Ummami taste in foods actually increases risk in this disease. The feel good drug without the alertness promoter. The problem is in the foods, we have thrown away sensibility in nutrition. Other dementias come sometimes from eating too much other plant defense system chemistry or other additives they throw in food, alum in pickles and cheese and baking powder can cause dementia if you overconsume it.

If the medical industry looked at the research already done, they would see this stuff, but why would they do that, it would lessen the need for healthcare and medicines. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out, almost anyone can research and find this stuff but it takes a lot of time and research to understand how to interpret the information and compare it to other research properly.

I have known people who had alzheimer disease. I watched the progression, I knew what meds and supplements were prescribed, you never should supplement high doses of calcium with alzheimer disease, the deterioration feeds on calcium. Screw the osteoporosis risk, looking how calcium works at the cellular level and it's relation to autoimmune diseases, it should not be taken over a hundred fifty percent of RDA. They make a half dozen meds to block calcium use by cells that I know of, it is better to restrict intake than to block the utilization. Vitamin D supplements in higher doses, especially D2 should not be done long term. There is evidence it helps some things, but also evidence that it can cause other problems. Vitamin D increases absorbtion into the body from the intestines.

I can go on and on with possible ways to lower risk of alzheimer disease.



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