Police Threaten Arrest If Citizens Speak Out Against the State-Sanctioned Death of Baby Alfie Evans

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt

originally posted by: SATURN66

originally posted by: Whoisjohngalt
Well thats England for you. Be a good subject and obey the crown. Doesnt matter if thugs murder you in the street while you're defenseless or your child is dying and you want to try a hail mary. As long as the crown maintains control over its subjects, everything is fine.

sorry but our english law stoped this child from suffering anylonger, its put there for a reason, becouse at the end of the day the parants will fight tooth and nail to keep their child alive even if there is no hope

Suffering huh? Thats what you call it? I call it life. See, when he was alive, the kid had some kind of chance. Not a big chance. But a chance greater than zero. Which is what dead people got. Zero. Nothing. Not even empty blackness. Just no existence. And from THAT there is no hope.
Your english law didnt save anyone. It denied two parents a chance to save what was the center of their world. But hey, the kids dead now, so tell yourself what you need to in order to feel better about your government

realy thats the best reply you can come back with lol,
i suppose it gave you a chance to post on here lol

She basically if you make a threat against the hospital the police will pursue

Why is that a problem??

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
She basically if you make a threat against the hospital the police will pursue

Why is that a problem??

"A threat against" would be calling them and threatening them. Not venting hyperbole on social media

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
She basically if you make a threat against the hospital the police will pursue

Why is that a problem??

"A threat against" would be calling them and threatening them. Not venting hyperbole on social media

A threat to cause harm or significant disruption dine either via phone or Facebook is no different

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

how disconnected from reality does someone have ot be to think that starving a child to death won't inflame passions?

That child did not die from starvation....

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

do you think that your courts are the ultimate authority? is no one allowed to disagree with them FFS?

Going to an italian hospital resolves:

- the issue with parental rights, as the courts didn't give birth to that child. the parents did (you guys in the UK have this all backasswards)
- the political hot potato
- the risk to patients and staff due to the mob

But it was more important for your state to remain supreme in their authority

Parental rights are not absolute and no should they be.

Courts absolutely should not be making decisions based on something being a political hot potato or mob rule.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
She basically if you make a threat against the hospital the police will pursue

Why is that a problem??

"A threat against" would be calling them and threatening them. Not venting hyperbole on social media

The medium of the threat should be more or less irrelevant. Its the content that matters.

People are off course allowed to disagree, but when that disagreement becomes threatening then the police absolutely should intervene.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

You are in the medical profession. You know the effect that not taking in protein can have on cell repair.

Starving him may not kill him as direct causation. It certainly didn't help.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
She basically if you make a threat against the hospital the police will pursue

Why is that a problem??

"A threat against" would be calling them and threatening them. Not venting hyperbole on social media

Our staff have received in person, via phone calls, email, and through social media channels a barrage of highly abusive and threatening language and behaviour that has shocked us all. Worse still, patients and visitors to Alder Hey have also reported abuse.

www.alderhey.nhs.uk...

a reply to: ScepticScot

CertIainly the medium matters. Screaming into void isnt a threat.

In Texas i have a right to shoot someone who has threatened me if i see them in person and feel my life is in danger. Proving it was a threat is the challenge. Because words are just words.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Except im referring to the statement of them monitoring social media.

The new UK PC jackboots apparently are out in force enforcing polite speech about this hateful action.

a reply to: notsure1

How come they are listening now but not to the public whilst the wee guy was still alive???

Our gooberment allowed a little boy to die by default.

They should be swinging from the god darn lamposts!!!!

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ScepticScot

CertIainly the medium matters. Screaming into void isnt a threat.

In Texas i have a right to shoot someone who has threatened me if i see them in person and feel my life is in danger. Proving it was a threat is the challenge. Because words are just words.

Which is obviously much better than having courts deal with threats....

Posting on social media isn't screaming into a void. (I suspect there is a joke in there somewhere).

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Chadwickus

Except im referring to the statement of them monitoring social media.

The new UK PC jackboots apparently are out in force enforcing polite speech about this hateful action.

Nonsense. Dealing with threats to a children's hospital is not enforcing polite speech

You are claiming to be concerned about a childs life yet you are defending actions that endanger the life's of dozens of children.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Then why did you say “"A threat against" would be calling them and threatening them. Not venting hyperbole on social media”?

Clearly they have been called, and approached and threatened.

Now you say it’s about monitoring social media?

Moving goalposts much?

a reply to: Chadwickus

From the OP, for blind kickers who cant even see goalposts

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Chadwickus

From the OP, for blind kickers who cant even see goalposts

You for know that that just confirms what everyone has been telling you right?

a reply to: ScepticScot

It confirms that in the UK, venting on social media gets the cops called on you

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Police can state whatever they wish.

They are as responsible for the death of that child as much as the Doctors and bureaucratic scum that stood in the way of any possible treatment that could have been given.

As are any others that enforce the will of the totalitarian bastards unfortunately at the helm of the nation.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Oh I see, so their social media post about threats made on social media is the only avenue of investigation...

Makes sense.