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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: bastion
Just found out some Texas hospitals have gone against parents wishes and gone to court to turn off life support.
Which they did on two occasions that I can find.
www.google.co.uk...
www.houstonpress.com...
So there are places in the states where the same happens.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
It's funny in a sad way, people keep saying the kid was suffering, if he's brain dead where exactly were those nerve impulses read?
originally posted by: Irishhaf
It's funny in a sad way, people keep saying the kid was suffering, if he's brain dead where exactly were those nerve impulses read?
originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: bastion
Just found out some Texas hospitals have gone against parents wishes and gone to court to turn off life support.
Which they did on two occasions that I can find.
www.google.co.uk...
www.houstonpress.com...
So there are places in the states where the same happens.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Grambler
I think you have to look at it as the best they could do versus the worst.
In this case, keeping his body alive through whatever means seems worse than letting him go.
Which is worse than euthanasia.
That said though, how much did his parents prolong his suffering by performing CPR?
originally posted by: ArMaP
originally posted by: Grambler
That is what is disgusting about this case. Not that the court said the state would no longer provide treatment, but that it forced other doctors to not provide it
First of all, nobody was providing treatment, as there is no known treatment for the disease that was killing Alfie. Second, I have yet to see real evidence that the court forbid the parents from getting the child to a different hospital. If you have any I would like to see it.
originally posted by: Grambler
On your first point, just because their is no cure doesn’t mean treatment wasn’t being offered
Alfie was treated by the U.K. hospital for months. Are you saying this isn’t the cas because there is no cure?
On your second point, read the judgement or any article on this
Italy offered to give the child care, even sending an air ambulance, but the U.K. court said no
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Grambler
Agreed.
Family are the advocates. Without them, patients have little chance in this world.
My wife is my advocate, and she's a bulldog. Once when i was in the hospital they were going to move me ot a semiprivate room. Until she got ahold of them. She had a valid medical arguement that would have been harder to argue against than to just find another solution (which they did).
One time my brother in law was bleeding to death in the ER when my wife walked in. Little 4'11" mexican girl turned right around, found the first doctor she saw, grabbed him by the tie, and said, "You're coming with me" and made him address the issue.
I am 100% behind patient advocacy. Passionately. I've seen
what a bulldog can do for someone, and their survival. And only family loves enough to fight like that.[/quot
Agreed, advocating and taking personal responsibility for understanding your illness and treatment options as well as monitoring your treatment are life saving measures. As a nurse, I can tell you that you would be terrified and appalled at the number of mistakes that occur in the medical field every day
originally posted by: testingtesting
I will say it again fake moral outrage from many here. Just a chance to attempt to bash our NHS.
So obvious tbh seeing Texas has it on their law books but oh well that that isn't the same because it goes against your anti Brit bs.
I'm out.
You should be ashamed using this tragedy for your own bs.
originally posted by: pikestaff
originally posted by: MysticPearl
In communist England, health care kill you.
Just like lack of VA care can kill you.