A "Major" Announcement on Hypersonics in the Near Future

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Zaphod58

Edit: would a project like this take place at Palmdale?

Curious as to whats being built at Palmdale. Yesterday for the first time I watched a JANET 737 go from Las Vegas to Palmdale. I'm used to seeing the the Beech 1900 make daily flights, but not the 737.

What's coming....

Looking at flightaware, I only see 737 flights from TNX to PMD.

a reply to: gariac




Returning to Vegas

a reply to: penroc3
Problem with magnets...Weight and electronic interference? More thrust is needed and a far more aerodynamically efficient airframe ..

a reply to: Blackfinger

what if they've figured out the weight problem and shielding isn't so much of an issue. what if the magnet is important to the thrust.

originally posted by: anzha
a reply to: makemap

He got a PhD...in math. That means wicked smaht.

Ayuh!

a reply to: BASSPLYR
If they cross teched from what they have learnt from the Boeing shapes (that shall not be said) and having the magnets being part of the mechanism (plasma and Lasers) then its possible.A lot of the best aerodynamics was done at least 50 to 70 years ago now with them being fine tuned by digital software programs such as Solidworks fluid dynamic modelling addon "Flow
With magnets wouldnt centrifugal forces be a consideration on bearing design?

a reply to: Blackfinger

good question but with this type of set up I don't believe so.

anyhoo, back to the thread topiv sounds like they got a hypersonic cruise missile or something. wonder what sorta stuff you'd launch it out of. probably anything would do I guess

a reply to: Blackfinger

you can make things non magnetic using various methods so that isn't a huge issue.

Somewhere in the UK they are making super strong magnetic fields with solenoids that are hand built and use special internal geometry on paper substrates that have HUGE field strengths a couple of Tesla's. and that was done on a shoestring budget, i cant imagine what they have come up with in other areas.


i think any potential issues are far outweighed by the benifits.

testing of stuff like this would explain allot of the 'plasma ufo's' people are seeing.

zaph. do you think this hypersonic missile will be a boost glide or a true cruise missile but hypersonic

This went off rails pdq. huh.

a reply to: anzha

I'm trying to bring it back on track. same question to you. do you think if the revelation is about hypersonic missiles that it will be a working boost glide or something more exciting like a hypersonic cruise missile or rattlers or something

a reply to: BASSPLYR

He said it was something that would allow for the acceleration of all hypersonic programs.

I bet they had a material science breakthrough and probably demoed it. Now all of the above can be done much faster.

That's an ENORMOUS announcement. It means missiles in 5 years, not 10 to 15.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

i think it is going to be a missile seeing as there was a bunch of talk about falling behind and china and russia making some pretty impressive progress. the DF-21D is pretty scary and russia's new(to them) cruise missile they displayed in Putin's speech...i doubt they will be nuclear powered and this was a way of telling people in the know what they have been doing, but i think the our hypersonic missiles are going to be a larger lines of the AGM-158's or maybe a bit bigger for obvious reasons then after all that MAYBE we will be a sneak peak at the applications for air/space craft.


then again it seem intuitive that you would try to make them long and pointy, using plasma magic to help protect the skin.

you might even be able to include a MHD system, that way you can generate your own power for the RF/microwave and magnetic systems. i wonder how they are going to have cryogenic temps around the magnets? that's why i think they will have to be large.

a reply to: Bigburgh

Got it. Flightaware didn't have those.

Make a Cruise Missile Hypersonic Im all for it..If its materials tech it will add onto everything from A9,s up to the AMRAAM family and bigger..Its easier to go bigger first then miniaturize the tech.

As i have said before, some disclosure is coming. Maybe of the disruptive kind.

Ouch... can a sa-400 even touch a HCM?

Would there be enough time?

a reply to: grey580

It'll have the same issues as every other defense system out there. Good enough radar, fast enough interceptor and you can get more shots and have a better chance at stopping it.

a reply to: grey580

the s-400 can hit targets going over 10,000mph. allegedly

a reply to: penroc3

Gotta sell those systems.

And that's assuming that the radar can detect and react to something incoming that fast.

I wonder if the hypersonic missile would be stealthy.