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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra
If you lie to vote then you can be prosecuted for it.
Was voter fraud not a crime in Texas before this?
This does not seem to be the case.
The new law strengthened penalties.
SECTION 3. Chapter 63, Election Code, is amended by adding
Section 63.0013 to read as follows:
Sec. 63.0013. FALSE STATEMENT ON DECLARATION OF REASONABLE
IMPEDIMENT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person
intentionally makes a false statement or provides false information
on a declaration executed under Section 63.001(i).
(b) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.
SECTION 6. Section 63.012(b), Election Code, is amended to
read as follows:
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
This does not apply to voters, it applies to poll workers. The prior law made it a Class B misdemeanor.
UNLAWFULLY ACCEPTING OR REFUSING TO ACCEPT VOTER.
Welcome to the concept of check and balances. I know, it's a radical idea. Right?
it freaks me out seeing these random judges that have the ability to put a halt to industry and our govt because of an opinion in essence that then has to go through a massive process to reverse it when wrong.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheScale
The decisions of judges are public record. They contain the reasons for the decisions as well as the legal basis.
Welcome to the concept of check and balances. I know, it's a radical idea. Right?
it freaks me out seeing these random judges that have the ability to put a halt to industry and our govt because of an opinion in essence that then has to go through a massive process to reverse it when wrong.
Senate bill 5: Relating to requiring a voter to present proof of identification; providing a criminal penalty and increasing a criminal penalty.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra
It was a class B misdemeanor prior to the passage of the new law (now class A).
That does not apply to voters. It applies to poll workers.
As I said, there were two changes in penalties.
SECTION 3. Chapter 63, Election Code, is amended by adding
Section 63.0013 to read as follows:
Sec. 63.0013. FALSE STATEMENT ON DECLARATION OF REASONABLE
IMPEDIMENT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person
intentionally makes a false statement or provides false information
on a declaration executed under Section 63.001(i).
(b) An offense under this section is a state jail felony.
I know.
Applies to voters
Or you could read what I wrote previously:
But like I said you can either read the entire bill or click to amendment tab to see the specifics.
This is a new clause which is relevant to the change in ID requirements. The "impediment" it's talking about are impediments which require the use of alternate items of ID. The offense has been specified not increased.
No. Here is what your post said before you edited (as quoted in my reply to it)
You said the 2 sections only apply to poll workers - I said they apply to voters, which again increases the penalty - you say you know.
You state one of the two changes. "It". Singular.
It was a class B misdemeanor prior to the passage of the new law (now class A).
This has always been the case.
If you lie to vote then you can be prosecuted for it.
The new law "strengthed" the penalty for poll workers who knowingly permit someone to vote who shouldn't or prevent someone from voting who should. It did not "strengthen" penalties for voters who commit voter fraud. Those were already felonies. Lying to vote was and is a felony.
The new law strengthened penalties.
I have posted what you originally said.
what I posted originally you disagreed with and now you are agreeing with what I said.
Yes. The penalty for lying to vote has not changed. It was, and is a felony.
Or are you trying to say going from no penalty to a penalty is not an increase?