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The Serious 9/11 Arguments Compilation.

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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 07:56 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: Jesushere
neutronflux Leaning by how much where I don't see it. Show me a video i can see this clearly. News Reporters say things all the time that are untrue. I remember people claiming a third plane knocked down the second tower all in the heat of the moment.



First you respond to this...

Again:

More blatant falsehoods by you. Cite a source that makes such claims.

The collapse for each tower started at the areas of jet impacts. Some 11 and 29 stories down from the top of the towers.

And you might want to read this post...
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Police officers are human they just witnessed a tower collapsing. They probably pumped up with adrenaline and they think they saw the tower leaning. There no evidence of leaning on any video if the there was the antenna would be moving if the building was moving.


So you are just going to ignore the reports and video that show the tower bucking near the areas of the jet impact? The buckling that caused the upper portion and antenna to lean. With no evidence the antenna dropped before the upper portion of the building dropped. While you cannot cite once source the collapse started at the top. While video and witness accounts give testimony that each tower started to buckle relative to the jet impacts which initiated the collapse some 11 or 29 floor down from the top.

All for the false narrative of dropping of the antenna which was debunked years ago?

You are delusional.


You are delusional since you have not provided evidence to show this pre-collapse buckling occurred.

FEMA said the Central core failed first in the North Tower. I decided to have a read what they said happened before commenting.

You find this in the section 2.2.1.5 progression of collapse
www.fema.gov...


NIST has a different theory of what happened, but they are wrong.
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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: neutronflux

What is the formula for thermite that does not need a magnesium fuse for igniting?


The formula is right here.



WTC7 steel was not painted with Laclede paint. This primer was only used to paint the floor trusses in the Twin Towers.

I think Skeptics have a psychological disorder as they seem unable to comprehend office fire of 400c can not melt steel.


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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: neutronflux

What is the formula for thermite that does not need a magnesium fuse for igniting?


The formula is right here.



WTC7 steel was not painted with Laclede paint. This primer was only used to paint the floor trusses in the Twin Towers.

I think Skeptics have a psychological disorder as they seem unable to comprehend office fire of 400c can not melt steel.



Guess what, contractors sometimes source other items that what are specified. Is that false.

The WTC steel was coated with industrial epoxy coatings. Why would thermite have epoxy, pigments, and clays found in industrial epoxy coatings.

Can you name one specific test Harrit ran and published the results of that would actually prove a thermite reaction.

Name the labs that confirmed Harrit’s supposed active thermite to complete Harrit’s discovery process.

How was everyone of Harrit’s tested chips supposedly thermite.

Why bother with a paper when forensic testing could have conclusively proved or disproved thermite. Because Harrit did not want tangible results. He is a snake oil salesmen.

How can Harrit claim super thermite without naming a formula of super thermite his paint chips matched. The paper is junk science.

Who has published results that confirm Harrit’s claim of active thermite?



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

Do you not need to provide evidence to support this theory? Why was sulphuric acid stored in an office building?



This is a UPS battery bank. All of the buildings had them. They contain sulphuric acid. There were also large batteries to start the diesel generators.



UA175 crashed into a UPS battery bank. it was located on the 81 floor of WTC2, That is this corner right here:



Evidence provided:

11-settembre.blogspot.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

You are delusional since you have not provided evidence to show this pre-collapse buckling occurred.




10:22 AM

55"




posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

I think Skeptics have a psychological disorder




You seem to be having some trouble picking out the ingredients found in the paint and comparing them with the elements found in one of Harrit's graphs.

Here let me help:



I always found the best way to explain things to Truthers is: Big pictures Small words.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere


Dr Harrit found Elemental Aluminium he has released the tests that show that in his paper. How come he was respected before this and never had any complaints about his work in the past, but now his work is rubbished.


This September Dr Harrit is going to explain to us how the moon landings are Fake.


www.facebook.com...



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere
waypastvne I get to you eventually





NIST did explain it. It was cascade failure of the truss seats.

This is a truss seat:



They are located here:



After collapse initiation the floors impacted one upon the next, overloading the truss seat welded connection:



To the columns:




No thermite necessary. AND:




It fits the evidence found.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:36 PM
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Even pictures won't change their minds.
Conspiracy believers are mentally stuck in a rut.
Much like nibiru believers.
Show them any picture of the sun and they see a fireball coming to destroy us.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: samkent

Yes but their denial is more entertaining when you add pictures.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:58 PM
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a reply to: waypastvne

Should put it in You Tube video - that's the only medium they seem to understand

Don't understand or respond to the written word - like handing 4 year old a book



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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a reply to: waypastvne

Yes, seen several of our prize loons posting idiotic nonsense in the SPACE EXPLORATION forums going on for 30 pages
about how moon landings faked

Usual nonsense - Van Allen Radiation Belts, rockets dont work in space, space suits not work in vacuum , etc

You get the picture



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: Jesushere

Your problem is that WTC7 also had structural damage a 20 floor rip on the elevation facing the North Tower and a 7 floor chunk on the SW corner irrc and fires left to burn for hours.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: waypastvne

Should put it in You Tube video - that's the only medium they seem to understand

Don't understand or respond to the written word - like handing 4 year old a book



OK let's test that theory.

Jesushere believes Satam's passport is fake because...It can't happen.

I made a video 9 years ago explaining how it could happen.

Lets see if he can grasp the basic concept presented in the video. That is: Air has mass > Mass has inertia.

I bet I will still have to explain it to him.


Jesushere please watch this video and comment.





posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: waypastvne

Should put it in You Tube video - that's the only medium they seem to understand

Don't understand or respond to the written word - like handing 4 year old a book



OK let's test that theory.

Jesushere believes Satam's passport is fake because...It can't happen.

I made a video 9 years ago explaining how it could happen.

Lets see if he can grasp the basic concept presented in the video. That is: Air has mass > Mass has inertia.

I bet I will still have to explain it to him.


Jesushere please watch this video and comment.




But they will believe the WTC jets were holograms. Or the jets should have bounced off the towers. Or believe in the mythical fizzle no flash explosives that supposedly can cut steel, and supposedly hurled ton pieces of steel about with no resulting shrapnel.

While they ignore the jet wreckage on the streets after the impacts, scores of ID’s were recovered from the WTC, and there is a long history of unprotected documents surviving jet crashes.
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posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:40 AM
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originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: Jesushere

Do you not need to provide evidence to support this theory? Why was sulphuric acid stored in an office building?



This is a UPS battery bank. All of the buildings had them. They contain sulphuric acid. There were also large batteries to start the diesel generators.



UA175 crashed into a UPS battery bank. it was located on the 81 floor of WTC2, That is this corner right here:



Evidence provided:

11-settembre.blogspot.com...


UPS room on the 81st floor according to a Japanese insider was not in operation. The insider alleges these batteries or boxes were not placed in the room till the summer of 2001. Which makes you wonder if some of the batteries could have got switched out for explosives or were just placed in this room alongside the batteries?

Obviously, lead-based batteries inside this room is an interesting find and I don't rule it out this liquid pouring out may have something to with the batteries? Would Sulphuric acid chemistry not be found on the steel though?

That still doesn't explain the WTC7 steel findings. There was no UPS battery room on floor 13th. The problem is NIST formulated a fake model of collapse. You hired a builder to roof your home and he showed you the drawings and the roof was missing nailing fittings and secure bars would you think he was competent at his job? NIST has no right to remove shear studs, girder stiffeners, beam plates as they were there during the construction of WTC7. Skeptics gloss over this as if it doesn't matter. That's why architects and engineers are opposed to the NIST study you never get away with what NIST has here in the real world.
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posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: Jesushere

You are delusional since you have not provided evidence to show this pre-collapse buckling occurred.




10:22 AM

55"



This image here is of Tower 1, inward bowing. I thought neutron lux claiming tower 1 was leaning.
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posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: neutronflux

What is the formula for thermite that does not need a magnesium fuse for igniting?


The formula is right here.



WTC7 steel was not painted with Laclede paint. This primer was only used to paint the floor trusses in the Twin Towers.

I think Skeptics have a psychological disorder as they seem unable to comprehend office fire of 400c can not melt steel.



NIST moved office partitions and furniture around in their model it seems to create a furness in order to achieve the maximum temprature possible.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

if some of the batteries could have got switched out for explosives or were just placed in this room alongside the batteries?




A 350,000 pound plane traveling at 590 mph crashed into it. An engine went through that room.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: waypastvne

originally posted by: Jesushere

You are delusional since you have not provided evidence to show this pre-collapse buckling occurred.




10:22 AM

55"



This image here is of Tower 1, inward bowing. I thought neutron lux claiming tower 1 was leaning.



Congratulations. You got something right.


You might want to check your Quote again.



You are delusional since you have not provided evidence to show this pre-collapse buckling occurred.

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