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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Meniscus
It isn't just hard, it is impossible to ignore Trump's meetings and Pompeo's trip but it is also impossible to ignore the other times in the past 2 decades or so that SK and NK have put reunification on the table so it should also be impossible to say the credit goes to Trump.
originally posted by: Serdgiam
Such a concession is about as likely as a diehard Packers fan admitting the Bears played well.
Its just not how its done.
The refs will be blamed, maybe injuries, conditions, perhaps some historical excuses.. but, no.. your typical "anti-trumper" will never admit anything of the sort on any topic.
Luckily, despite being so dedicated and vocal (which messes with perception of numbers), many are willing to give credit where credit just might be due.
In this case though, I think outright celebration might be a bit preemptive. There is a long way to go even if the very possibility of some sort of reconciliation is promising.
I think it all might come down to how its "sold" to NK. Bringing NK into the fold of the rest of the so-called modern world makes the leadership (Un) lose some aspects that have been quite important. As a trade off, however, he could make a helluva name for himself in his countries soon-to-be history.
That's a pretty big selling point along with facets like the benefits of no longer being at odds with the rest of the world. That would result in everything from stress reduction to technological benefits that would only increase over time, as trust is established.
Sure, ya give up faux-godhood, but that's a small price to pay for FLACs and 4k
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: DBCowboy
So the next thread could be "Will The Pro-Trump Crowd Concede That Trump Was Responsible For Korea's Remaining Split?
I guess I'd be in there saying that Trump really didn't have much to do with it and be told that my opinion as a non-american isn't as valuable as an americans by Randy's evil twin.
originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Well, apesement didnt work for Bush, giving money didnt work for Obama.. it seems Trump said long before he was President the only way to move forward on Korea was strength and a determination to end the nonsense.
Guess what, Trump got in power and immediately put his military assets over North Korea and told him to play nice and join the community or else..
x months later, here we are, Kim shaking hands, smiling and talking about a bright future
- same ol same ol from the a$$hats... Blame Trump when bad things happen, ignore Trump when good things happen.
Ignore them, its just another notch to add to Trumps growing list of achievements.